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Posted on 9/14/20 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 4:33 pm to
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She was a drug dealer



No, she wasn’t.
She had no criminal record. I realize that doesn't prove she wasn't but most get busted at some point.
Posted by yesyesyall
Member since Sep 2018
242 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 5:00 pm to
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After they broke in unannounced and into the wrong apartment to boot...

If you were asleep in your bed and knew you had done nothing wrong, someone breaks into your place unannounced, how would you react?

^ this is all incorrect FYI. as is often the case, the initial narrative (made popular via press releases by the victim's family's lawyer) is riddled with outright falsehoods. new information has come to light.

the question is, when you see evidence that totally changes the nature of this case, will you change your mind? tough thing to do when you're already emotionally committed.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23401 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 5:27 pm to
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He shot a Cop in the leg.




Getting shot at while busting into a home in the dark of the night should be the baseline expectation of any such raid.

This is is yet another reason to end these no-knock raids: it needlessly imperils the life of LEOs.

No-knock raids should be limited to the most extreme situations in which other innocents are facing imminent danger.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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23401 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 5:42 pm to
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the question is, when you see evidence that totally changes the nature of this case, will you change your mind? tough thing to do when you're already emotionally committed


What new evidence has emerged that changed the nature of the case?

The no-knock raid was still based on guilt by association.

Again, no evidence has emerged demonstrating that Taylor’s residence was being used as a drug house or as a money house as stated in the warrant.


This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 10:43 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135489 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 11:34 am to
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you histrionic fig.
Well, well I missed this jewel yesterday.
Do this, blueboy. Look up the concept of "projection". You'll find your derisive post there.

The Breonna Taylor episode should register with anyone as a massive screw up for LMPD. Analysis and reckoning in these instances is an opportunity for improvement. Failure of Departments to take advantage of such opportunities leads to flawed policy. Flawed policy jeopardizes cops.

Case in point. When Walter Scott was shot to death in Charleston, the working premise was he'd taken the cop's taser, and had run away. That provided an excuse, IAW Department policy, to gun him down. Walter Scott provided a opportunity for Depts across the country to review policy and approach to similar situations. (of course it turned out later the cop killed him, then planted the taser) It was an opportunity lost on the Atlanta PD in the Rayshard Brooks shooting. IMO, we are going to find Garrett Rolfe acted EXACTLY IAW APD policy.

I'd bet we'll find the same thing in Chauvin's case as well. It's very likely he was following flawed MPD policy ... to a tee.

Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15005 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 11:48 am to
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After they broke in unannounced and into the wrong apartment to boot...

If you were asleep in your bed and knew you had done nothing wrong, someone breaks into your place unannounced, how would you react?


The man they were after was in bed with her.... not the wrong apartment.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135489 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:33 pm to
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The man they were after was in bed with her....
Negative.
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8031 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 3:51 pm to
Incorrect. They have her on recordings saying she was going to pick up money from the crackhouse. So the warrant was correct. Like was previously mentioned, there were 2 places to raid, her apartment and another place. With all the evidence accrued at this junction, Blame her side piece for shooting at the police, anything else is just ignorant and ignores all of the real evidence. Again, they had active warrants on the crack dealers in the apartment, they had a search warrant for her residence and another one, they were shot at executing the warrant.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135489 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:17 pm to
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They have her on recordings saying she was going to pick up money from the crackhouse.
Yeah, $12 Million says you're wrong. Further, they've got nothing of the sort based on what's been released.

They've got Glover saying “I can walk in [Bre’s] house and go directly to whatever it is no problem with it.” Yet the police found SQUAT there.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23401 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 5:20 pm to
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They have her on recordings saying she was going to pick up money from the crackhouse. So the warrant was correct.




There is no recording of Taylor saying she was picking up money from a crack-house. It was Jamarcus Glover — recorded in conversation with another woman AFTER Taylor’s death — who said Taylor handled his money. In this conversation, it appears Glover was sandbagging the mother of his child to whom he owed child support.

None of the leaked documents in the Glover case directly implicates Taylor in the drug running operation. The no-knock warrant was issued under the premise that Taylor’s apartment was a drug house yet no illicit cash and no drugs were found at Taylor’s home during the raid. No evidence released since Taylor’s death has changed that reality.

I certainly believe the trajectory of Breonna Taylor’s life would have had a better ending if she had not knowingly dated a drug dealer. And I think the narrative that Breonna Taylor was targeted simply because she was black is false and destructive. Yet Rand Paul’s effort to end no-knock raids should be a cause that anyone concerned about Constitutional due process should support.


LINK ]Rand Paul Introduces ‘Justice For Breonna Taylor Act’ Banning No-Knock Warrants.....


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On Thursday, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) introduced a bill that would prohibit law enforcement officers from forcing entry into homes without announcing themselves first. The proposed legislation, which is known as the “Justice for Breonna Taylor Act,” is a two-page bill that would essentially outlaw no-knock warrants.

The bill is named after Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old former EMT who was killed by police officers who attempted to forcibly enter her home while serving a no-knock warrant. After her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker allegedly fired a shot at the officers, believing they were burglars, the officers fired 20 shots into the apartment, eight of which struck Taylor, killing her instantly.

The draft of the bill reads, “State or local law enforcement agency that receive funds from the Department of Justice during the fiscal year may not execute a warrant that does not require the law enforcement officer serving the warrant to provide notice of his or her authority and purpose before forcibly entering a premises.”

As the debate over addressing police reform rages, it seems that some are already taking action to decrease the number of preventable deaths that occur due to interactions with the police. The statistics regarding the practice don’t paint a positive picture. Police are authorized to conduct over 20,000 no-knock raids each year. In 65% of these raids, no contraband has been found.

Given the fact that the practice is dangerous for both civilians and police officers, it seems likely that other local governments might follow suit regardless of how Paul’s proposal fares in Congress. Perhaps we will see some major changes in the use of this tactic in the near future....

This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 5:44 pm
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