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re: The True History of the Jonestown Cult, WWII, and How Winston Churchill Ruined Europe

Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:26 pm to
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had Britain accepted peace in 1941 either.


On what terms?
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:28 pm to
Just finished watching the Tucker piece and Candace video popped up. Watching that now.

Good stuff all around.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:28 pm to
And yet here you are, upset that someone dared to question the orthodoxy, working double time to stamp out wrong think
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

On what terms?


Hitler was eager to make peace with the UK. The terms would probably have been generous.

The UK would have kept the empire, and wouldn’t have emerged from the war bankrupt. In purely selfish terms, it leads to a better outcome. Winning the war perversely breaks them.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84603 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:33 pm to
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Hitler was eager to make peace with the UK. The terms would probably have been generous.


Does he have primary documents to support this or is it supposition?
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:35 pm to
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On what terms?


They had lost the war and had been kicked off the continent. As was evident when they were allowed to leave Dunkirk.

Churchill kept the war flames going, (literally), by firebombing German forests until he could drag US into it.

Guess who got to write the history after the war and make grand patriotic movies we all couldn't get enough of.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5117 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:36 pm to
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And yet here you are, upset that someone dared to question the orthodoxy, working double time to stamp out wrong think



You claimed the topic was taboo and the best example you can come up with is someone poking holes in the "Hitler was actually the good guy" "I'm just asking questions" thread? Shouldn't a "taboo" topic have real world consequences?

Candace "I'm not allowed to talk about this" Owens routinely talks about the things she's not allowed to talk about and she's getting rich in the process. But it's a "taboo" topic.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:47 pm to
Just look at all the attacks they are getting from the guardians of the narrative.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5117 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:54 pm to
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Just look at all the attacks they are getting from the guardians of the narrative.



Are you not a guardian of a narrative?

The point still stands though. If the topic isn't allowed to be discussed, doesn't the fact that it was discussed openly and promoted by the owner of Twitter disprove that the topic is verboten? Just because people are disagreeing and making those disagreements public doesn't suddenly make Tucker and Darryl victims.

Like I said earlier, and your post above proves this, claiming something is off limits or taboo or whatever is just a way to insulate yourself from any dissenting opinion. You consider people who disagree with you to be either fooled by someone or to be in on the conspiracy. You would never take any disagreement in good faith.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

On what terms?


I mean, what had they lost? They weren’t even actively fighting each other
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84603 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:04 pm to
There had been a declaration of war for nearly two years.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:05 pm to
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You claimed the topic was taboo and the best example you can come up with is someone poking holes in the "Hitler was actually the good guy" "I'm just asking questions" thread? Shouldn't a "taboo" topic have real world consequences?

Candace "I'm not allowed to talk about this" Owens routinely talks about the things she's not allowed to talk about and she's getting rich in the process. But it's a "taboo" topic.


Are you being willfully obtuse?

All of this talk is illegal in Europe and you’ll go to prison.

In the US, while not illegal, it has historically been enough to ruin your career. It is not something that would have ever been allowed on any television programs. Really, it’s only very recently and primarily due to a shift in access largely because of twitter and TikTok, that it’s getting widely discussed. You could find stuff like this on 4chan, but most people don’t go there and you have to have enough sense from a lot of time spent there to navigate what has grains of truth between the countless trolls and intel ops.

And you see the reaction to the very recent availability of information to these topics at a large scale. The government of the US, which has a supposed first amendment, votes to ban TikTok. And now there are open calls to reign in Musk for Twitter and saying he’s a larger threat than Russia, and the NYT saying maybe the constitution is a mistake.

But sure, anyone can talk about this stuff and we’re the paranoid ones. Get your bullshite out of here, people have had enough of it.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

The point still stands though. If the topic isn't allowed to be discussed, doesn't the fact that it was discussed openly and promoted by the owner of Twitter disprove that the topic is verboten? Just because people are disagreeing and making those disagreements public doesn't suddenly make Tucker and Darryl victims.


What do you think would happen if I said Hitler was a great guy and the Holocaust never happened?

I'm NOT saying that but just imagine if I did.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:08 pm to
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There had been a declaration of war for nearly two years.


How does that take anything from what I said? What had Britain lost? Why could peace talks not lead to favorable results when they weren’t even actively fighting?

There are many sources on Hitler not having any serious beef with the British and being very pissed Churchill continued to escalate. What is your primary reason for not believing this?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84603 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:11 pm to
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How does that take anything from what I said? What had Britain lost? Why could peace talks not lead to favorable results when they weren’t even actively fighting?

There are many sources on Hitler not having any serious beef with the British and being very pissed Churchill continued to escalate. What is your primary reason for not believing this?


The initial quote you gave was the British should have “accepted peace”. They were still at war so what were the terms of the peace Hitler offered?

I’ve never seen them spelled out.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:15 pm to
I have not either. I have no reason to believe, based on the other things I said, they would be unreasonable

But the biggest and most glaring reason they should have accepted peace is the fact it was literally impossible for them to achieve a victory without the United States, who at the time was not their ally. And wasn’t one for another year and a half.

How can you justify “bargaining” when you have no chips? Churchill was bloodthirsty and we should have never been in the war, and we wouldn’t have been had it not been for him and his mind numbing stubbornness and deceit.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5117 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:17 pm to
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They weren’t even actively fighting each other


The British fought the Axis for the entirety of the war. There was never a period of peace.

The Battle of Britain lasted until the end of October 1940
Germans then moved to bomb all of England
The North Africa Campaign lasted from 1940 to 1943
U-boats were sinking British ships in the Atlantic throughout the war
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:20 pm to
Dunkirk happened in May, and then the Germans didn’t attack again until September after repeated bombing raids by Britain. Why could peace not have happened in that period?
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 7:22 pm
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5117 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Dunkirk happened in May, and then the Germans didn’t attack again until September


That's inaccurate. The Germans started the Battle of Britain in June 1940. The battle proper started July 10th.

And the Dunkirk evacuation ended in June 1940 as well. It started at the end of May.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:29 pm to
So proud of TC to have Darryl on his podcast. Love more and more people are waking up to the realization so much of what you’ve been told about the last 100 years historically is fake and gay. it’s way past time the history brokers who’ve controlled the narratives get exposed as the frauds they are.
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