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The Speech JFK Never Made & Commentary on His Vietnam Policy

Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:21 am
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:21 am
My father sent this to me yesterday. I had never really asked the question: what was Kennedy going to say when he was assassinated? So I read through the speech with some interest. Full Text From the Kennedy Library Archives

A fairly standard speech by a President. Most of it concerned military assistance and spending, with some boasting of increased economic output at the end.

Then I did some digging on what Kennedy's plans for Vietnam were... and contrary to what Johnson did after his assassination, Kennedy was actually planning to withdraw US troops and generally leave South Vietnam to its own devices after the assassination of Diem.

Good article from the Boston Review from years ago It's an extremely long article, so I'll post the most relevant excerpt:

quote:

After much debate, the president endorsed our recommendation to withdraw 1,000 men by December 31, 1963. He did so, I recall, without indicating his reasoning. In any event, because objections had been so intense and because I suspected others might try to get him to reverse the decision, I urged him to announce it publicly. That would set it in concrete. . . . The president finally agreed, and the announcement was released by Pierre Salinger after the meeting.


The Vietnam War and Southeast Asian generally was used as the CIA's playground for DECADES, much like the Middle East and Eastern Europe is now...

There should be absolutely zero doubt in any one's mind at this point that the CIA/early Deep State was responsible for Kennedy's murder, and I have no doubt LBJ was either directly involved or tacitly approved, as well.
Posted by Reservoir Ag
Member since Dec 2020
3572 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:43 am to
The CIA and FBI need to be cast on the dustbin of history.

I would argue these 2 organizations are more anti-American than the KGB.

Edit: Nice post OP, good find!
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:46 am to
quote:

There should be absolutely zero doubt in any one's mind at this point that the CIA/early Deep State was responsible for Kennedy's murder, and I have no doubt LBJ was either directly involved or tacitly approved, as well.

Glad you finally solved it.
Posted by Wing T
Hooks, TX
Member since Aug 2022
379 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:07 pm to
Interesting.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Diamondawg


Not sure of the reason for the smartass response?

I know sometimes it's hard to imagine, but lots of people, even on this forum, aren't as keyed into political history as some of us. Hell, even a lot of us that are probably have never read that speech before (like myself) or realized that Kennedy was about to go hard against the mil-industrial complex.

I get that it should be obvious the CIA assassinated Kennedy, but how many Americans, in general, believe that? 10%? 20%? I don't really know, but I'm sure it's not a large number.

This is in part just a continual reminder that the intel agencies/Deep State/mil-industrial complex in the US have been evil for going on a century and people need to wake up about the situation we find ourselves in.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Not sure of the reason for the smartass response?
I remember exactly where I was when Kennedy was assassinated. I have watched, read, discussed pretty much everything I could find and still don't know who is responsible. That's almost 60 years ago. So I guess the smartass response was because of this:

quote:

There should be absolutely zero doubt
The only thing I know for sure is Oswald did not act alone. Who the others are is still a mystery to me. I have my suspects, and CIA and FBI are on that list. But I am not without doubt. Just glad you were able to solve the mystery, I guess.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

I have my suspects, and CIA and FBI are on that list. But I am not without doubt. Just glad you were able to solve the mystery, I guess.


You think we STILL haven't declassified documents related to the assassination because communists or mobsters were involved?

And that's a serious question.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10604 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:41 pm to
Historians are split on whether Kennedy was actually going to withdraw from Vietnam. Conspiracy theorists have offered zero evidence that the CIA or anyone other than Lee Harvey Oswald was involved in the assassination. The actual evidence points to one shooter w/ an easy shot.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

You think we STILL haven't declassified documents related to the assassination because communists or mobsters were involved?
Most but not all have been declassified. Not sure what is behind the unreleased ones other than "national security threat" if they were to be released. I do not know who is being protected, though.
Posted by slowmoe
Member since Mar 2022
600 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:21 pm to
bull shite.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4370 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:28 pm to
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