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re: The next time a pro-abortion zealot denies that status, show them this.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:37 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:37 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:Agreed.
So again, and unforced error by the women's march. The right will make hay with it and some will be swayed. They should stfu and stick with the "safe and rare" argument that actually works.
Zealots USUALLY frick things up.
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:41 am to llfshoals
quote:The following is certainly not a perfect analogy, but it is illustrative.
He’s clear about why he thinks it. Where he’s wrong is that it’s a complex issue. It’s really very simple.
Imagine that we are discussing the color palette for a room that I want to decorate in shades of green. I spend some time thinking about and discussing the various shades of green that I might use, and how each of them might blend well with the types of wood in my end tables and picture frames. I also discuss how some shades of blue might work, but not as well (IMO).
Adam‘s response is the green sucks, I should never use it in any shade, and blue is the only option that should be available to me.
Why? Because green sucks. Did you not hear me?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 10:45 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:44 am to AggieHank86
quote:And we’re back to the slippery slope.
Agreed. Zealots USUALLY frick things up.
That’s why the issue has to remain at its heart a binary fundamental choice.
Simple, basic and written in stone. The moment we get away from it, downhill we go.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:47 am to llfshoals
quote:I guess I just have more confidence in my Nordic skills. I might not LIKE the moguls and black diamond slopes, but I can handle them.
And we’re back to the slippery slope. …. Simple, basic and written in stone. The moment we get away from it, downhill we go.
Not once have I fallen and slid all the way down the mountain on my arse! When I know I am in trouble, I am pretty good at laying down on my side and coming to an abrupt stop.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:53 am to llfshoals
quote:
While Hank knows I’m in opposition to his opinion, he articulated it.
My point is he didn't. He spouted off some philosophical gibberish because he won't or can't what he actually thinks.
You are right. It is simple. Either you think baby killing is ok or not ok. He thinks it is ok. Why not plainly say that?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:54 am to AggieHank86
quote:The 300 lb guy who has never been on skis before is liable to make that plan….unviable
Not once have I fallen and slid all the way down the mountain on my arse! When I know I am in trouble, I am pretty good at laying down on my side and coming to an abrupt stop.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:00 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:
women's march
Not an organization that should be considered representative of an entire "side" in this discussion.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:02 am to BlackAdam
quote:
You are right. It is simple. Either you think baby killing is ok or not ok. He thinks it is ok. Why not plainly say that?
Well, it's probably because you say stupid shite like "baby killing" with all the emotion you can muster.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:07 am to BlackAdam
Friend, you approach this issue with the emotional maturity of a toddler who has lost his binky. Have a snickers.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:08 am to BlackAdam
quote:Think about this for a minute. You’re trying to convince someone who holds a philosophical position with a moral argument.
You are right. It is simple. Either you think baby killing is ok or not ok. He thinks it is ok. Why not plainly say that?
Ne’er shall the Twain meet. The only way to approach it, is fight on their ground, which is a losing argument….unless you pick the ground and they didn’t even realize you did.
I think Hank just about started to figure that out he’s erred and stepped off his ground and onto mine.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 11:10 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:11 am to AggieHank86
quote:Don’t do that, I’m playing golf and I’m not going to be able to putt for shite if I start laughing every time I line one up.
Friend, you approach this issue with the emotional maturity of a toddler who has lost his binky. Have a snickers.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:13 am to llfshoals
quote:Total non sequitur, but spell-check is sometimes funny. The word “twain” (as used in this old saying) is just an archaic form of the word “two,” but modern spell-check sees it and assumes a reference to the author … and improperly capitalizes it.
Ne’er shall the Twain meet.
//end//
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 11:27 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:25 am to VoxDawg
quote:
It still doesn't change the fact that the entire pro-choice movement is predicated on the engineered shirking of responsibility for one's actions.
This requires the assumption that an inherent responsibility to carry a pregnancy to term exists. Who says that it does?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:27 am to Azkiger
quote:
Don't fall asleep, or get knocked out, or pass out.
Also, at what age do humans obtain awareness of our own existence? I'm on my phone and heading to bed (don't feel like minimizing and looking it up) but I'd imagine self awareness is gained a fair bit past birth. That has big implications.
And you're really confused as to why I answered your question the way I did?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:The obvious answer (in most cases) is “religion” (or sometimes “morals,” which we are assured cannot exist without relligion).
It still doesn't change the fact that the entire pro-choice movement is predicated on the engineered shirking of responsibility for one's actions.quote:
This requires the assumption that an inherent responsibility to carry a pregnancy to term exists. Who says that it does?
So why should YOUR religious/moral beliefs be allowed to constrain the actions of persons who do not share them?
Should any punishment for a religious/moral failing (or prohibition upon heretical behavior) not be imposed WITHIN the religion, rather than by secular authority?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 11:38 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:42 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
This requires the assumption that an inherent responsibility to carry a pregnancy to term exists. Who says that it does?
The primary function of intercourse is to reproduce. Or are you a science denier?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:44 am to VoxDawg
quote:
The primary function of intercourse is to reproduce.
So what?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:46 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Should any punishment for a religious/moral failing (or prohibition upon heretical behavior) not be imposed WITHIN the religion, rather than by secular authority?
I could live with that. Let them get abortions, then send them to "hell."
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:49 am to VoxDawg
quote:Is it?
The primary function of intercourse is to reproduce.
Intercourse is (pretty much) always fun.
What percent of intercourse results in a viable pregnancy? 2-3%? Probably less, honestly.
Sounds like the “primary function” might be “to have fun,” with reproduction being a side-effect.
Do dogs frick because they affirmatively want to have a litter of pups in two months, or do they frick because their nervous system instinctively tells them that it feels good?
If intercourse were not pleasurable, how many generations would the species last before extinction? Females would only get impregnated when a male trips, falls and accidentally lands dick-first in a female.
If pleasure is the ACTUAL primary purpose, is it unreasonable to seek mitigation of unintended side-effects?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:52 am to AggieHank86
quote:
AggieHank86
Damn you.
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