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re: The myth of American democracy
Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:00 am to Category5
Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:00 am to Category5
You can have laws protecting minority groups and individuals in a democracy
And you can have majority rule in a republic if you don’t have those protections.
Realistically minorities only have protections In the US because there isn’t a large enough majority who wants to take those protections away. And that’s just currently. If you look at Jim Crow you’ll see our current system of government didn’t protect minorities at all.
It’s a democratic republic.
And you can have majority rule in a republic if you don’t have those protections.
Realistically minorities only have protections In the US because there isn’t a large enough majority who wants to take those protections away. And that’s just currently. If you look at Jim Crow you’ll see our current system of government didn’t protect minorities at all.
It’s a democratic republic.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 10:02 am
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 10:08 am to SammyTiger
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You can have laws protecting minority groups and individuals in a democracy
Not if the majority votes against them. In a democracy the majority rules. Our republic has courts that can overturn such laws. A democracy has no such court.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:57 am to Category5
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Not if the majority votes against them. In a democracy the majority rules. Our republic has courts that can overturn such laws. A democracy has no such court.
We have courts because our constitution calls for it.
Its not a requirement of a democracy or a republic and it’s not precluded from either.
Our current system could do away with it theoretically. We just don’t.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:05 pm to JustAnAndroid
We’re a representative democracy and a republic. You’re making a silly distinction which has no substantive impact.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 2:35 pm to Category5
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Direct voting limits the power within the state. Any state/local law or ordinance that violates the minority will be overturned at a federal level = Republic
You are correct. We live in a country that is both a republic and democracy. You got there all by yourself, I'm so proud of you.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 8:59 am to JustAnAndroid
Why don't we just ask the dudes that created the country what they think -
"We are now forming a Republican form of government. Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of a dictatorship."4 Hamilton, in the last letter he ever wrote, warned that "our real disease…is DEMOCRACY." - Alexander Hamilton
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” After the Constitutional Convention was concluded, in 1787, a bystander inquired of Franklin: "Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?" Franklin replied, "A Republic, if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.” - John Adams
democracies “have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.” - James Madison
"…pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands…"
And this short video should be required viewing for every school-age child in America, every single school year -
why America is a republic not a democracy
"We are now forming a Republican form of government. Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of a dictatorship."4 Hamilton, in the last letter he ever wrote, warned that "our real disease…is DEMOCRACY." - Alexander Hamilton
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson
“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” After the Constitutional Convention was concluded, in 1787, a bystander inquired of Franklin: "Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?" Franklin replied, "A Republic, if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.” - John Adams
democracies “have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.” - James Madison
"…pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands…"
And this short video should be required viewing for every school-age child in America, every single school year -
why America is a republic not a democracy
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