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re: The Horseshoe Theory
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:39 pm to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:39 pm to Errerrerrwere
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1) strict gun control 2) separation of church and state (removing prayer from school) or setting fire to churches and statues of the Virgin Mary. 3) banning private schools 4) Michelle Obama’s “from the cradle to career” 4) Mary Saenger’s eugenic vision 5) Environmental economic policies 6) anti- property rights 7) “the common good supersedes the private good.” 8) the state passes judgement on who produces what and how much 9) working for personal gain is punishable 10) distrust markets 11) Disbanding the family unit
Every. Single. One. Of. Those. Hitler implemented. Every one. Cut from the same cloth and you are either smitten with communism, teachers have failed you or simple blind
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:43 pm to Mo Jeaux
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It's not.
Why not? I find the characterization of the right side if the horseshoe as being based on egoism odd. I think movement on the right side certainly have elements of altruism too.
It shouldn't be altruism on the left, but I get the sentiment, it's more like "forced" or "enforced" altruism.
It isn't altruism at all when you have no choice.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:44 pm to Caplewood
Debunk it.
Any of it.
Any of it.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:45 pm to FlexDawg
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LINK
Thanks for the link to the Dinesh D'Souza video. Can you point me to Jonah Goldburg's book on liberal fascism too?
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:46 pm to Mo Jeaux
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And yet had very distinctive ideological differences.
When you’re the one being oppressed, does the ideology really make any difference?
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:49 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Debunk it.
Any of it.
Well, some it is just weird. Environmental economic policies? The United States has environmental economic polices. I don't even know what you mean by it. Are they inherently bad?
Also, the Nazis didn't try to disband the family unit.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:50 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Also, the Nazis didn't try to disband the family unit.
They absolutely did! Trust the state. Not your family! They did that repeatedly with the Jews and family members, friends and communities ratting them out to the STATE!
I guess we are rewriting the Holocaust now?
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:50 pm to Godfather1
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When you’re the one being oppressed, does the ideology really make any difference?
Maybe. Depends on the degree I guess. Regardless, I'm interested in discussing the ideological differences (and why so many seem to think that they were/are identical). It's OK if you aren't.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:52 pm to Errerrerrwere
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They absolutely did! Trust the state. Not your family! They did that repeatedly with the Jews and family members, friends and communities ratting them out to the STATE!
I guess we are rewriting the Holocaust now?
Oh jeez. You're all over the place here.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:52 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Well, some it is just weird. Environmental economic policies? The United States has environmental economic polices. I don't even know what you mean by it. Are they inherently bad?
I’m not arguing good or bad. The NAZI party implemented economic environmental policies. Just like the socialists. That’s what we are contrasting here. Let’s not get off topic, you power hungry nerd.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:52 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Oh jeez. You're all over the place here.
Nah. Just waiting for you to debunk it...
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:52 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Oh jeez. You're all over the place here.
So, you’re losing the argument?
Cool.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:54 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Nah. Just waiting for you to debunk it...
I already have. You got mad and went off on a tangent about the holocaust.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:56 pm to Errerrerrwere
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So, you’re losing the argument?
No. You've stated that both communists and Nazis wanted to destroy the family unit. You lack any sort of factual basis to support this vis-a-vis Nazis.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:57 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I already have. You got mad and went off on a tangent about the holocaust.
You saying, “What’s so bad about environmental policies AND the NAZI’s didn’t want to get rid of the family unit” is NOT debunking anything.
Zero points for you.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:58 pm to Errerrerrwere
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The NAZI party implemented economic environmental policies. Just like the socialists. That’s what we are contrasting here. Let’s not get off topic, you power hungry nerd.
As I pointed out, the United States has also implemented economic environmental policies [is that the same as environmental economic policies, which was your original point] . Therefore, we are exactly like communists and Nazis according to your logic I guess.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:59 pm to Mo Jeaux
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As I pointed out, the United States has also implemented economic environmental policies. Therefore, we are exactly like communists and Nazis according to your logic I guess.
And it’s rooted in socialism and in German Naziism. Also, Hitler Youth would have been another element of eliminating the family unit.
We can keep going but you absolutely have an extra chromosome.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:03 pm to Errerrerrwere
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And it’s rooted in socialism and in German Naziism.
That damn environment! quote:
Also, Hitler Youth would have been another element of eliminating the family unit.
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:05 pm to Mo Jeaux
Give examples!
Gives examples!
Lol at those examples
Derp
Emojis mean your losing btw.
Let me know when you’re serious about a discussion.
You are boring me now.
Gives examples!
Lol at those examples
Derp
Emojis mean your losing btw.
Let me know when you’re serious about a discussion.
You are boring me now.
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