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re: The Decline and Fall of the United States of America.

Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:11 pm to
I mean every group has a tendency to point fingers at other groups and blame them.

Like this threat warning everyone about this damn Communists on the left.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:37 pm to
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I mean every group has a tendency to point fingers at other groups and blame them.

Like this threat warning everyone about this damn Communists on the left.


You're not making a lot of sense, dude. I'm talking about Collective Guilt becoming public policy. That's dangerous.

And, yes, there are influential people and groups who do want to destroy as much of this country as they can in order to advance their political agenda. Yes, they are Leftist/Marxist/Communist.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78290 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:27 pm to
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You're not making a lot of sense, dude. I'm talking about Collective Guilt becoming public policy. That's dangerous.


But how is “Collective Guilt”
More dangerous/worse than any other kind of group think?

And I would Argue if you look at the basics of Nazism you have the opposite. Collective Self-Righteousness can be equally weaponized.
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
1385 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:40 pm to
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The Decline and Fall of the United States of America


no.

several thousand anti-American communists that have been planning for years to try and burn the country down are attempting to do just that.. They waited for what seemed to be the right situation to spring their plan of destruction. WE had a situation that literally everybody in America condemned, together, but that was not enough and they had to use that as their excuse to riot...These riots are not about police brutality. Cops kill more whites than blacks, that is a fact. These same rioters and protestors dont say shite when cops kill white people, this is just their excuse. This will end and we will get past it..unfortunately, many innocent people will ultimately pay the price for these animals.. loss of life, business, property damage, etc., etc.,This is very unfortunate and is just disgusting.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:45 pm to
The recent rioting and destruction are justified based on notions of Collective Guilt: All of White Racist America is Guilty, so widespread destruction of and theft from storefronts in Manhattan is justified because one bad cop in Minneapolis abused one black suspect. This is an example of Justice based on the notion of Collective Guilt.

The USA is not going to last for much longer if we allow ourselves to use the notion of Collective Guilt to serve as a basis for imposing Justice and making public policy. And yet, as we watch mass media and social media try to convince us that this violence and destruction is Justified, they use the rationale of Collective Guilt.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78290 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:56 pm to
And we’ve seen other forms of group think justify slavery, genocide and all sorts of authorities.

Again, how is “Collective Guilt” More dangerous than pretending your perfect and Everton who disagrees can frick off?
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:26 pm to
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This has been in the works for decades.


One other significant "contributor" to it who was part of a hardcore group that really believed they could undermine the nation/the West from within through slick psychological conditioning of the young, because their patrons/ideological forebears had not been able to do it through blood and iron:

"We will gradually infiltrate their educational institutions and their political offices, transforming them slowly into Marxist entities as we move towards universal egalitarianism."

~ Max Horkheimer

(Once headed the Institute for Social Research, and became the acknowledged "Father of Sensitivity Training" - now called P.C.)

It's taken his kind through their dedicated acolytes over 50 years to get us to this point

But this is just the very early stages of what we can expect.

They're sensing another chance at the opportunity they thought they were going to realize in '16,

Only this time using the original tactics that even the revisionist Marxists saw as self-defeating.

The Left is retrogressing.


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