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re: The Claim That the CIA "Raided" the ODNI is a False Narrative

Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:24 pm to
Imagine having to explain to two dipshit "lawyers" why original documents are important and preferable to photocopies.

frickin retards.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 1:28 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:30 pm to
Tell us why, Ed. I look forward to your explanation of how and when documents can be authenticated and then hearsay and the relevant exceptions.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:32 pm to
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Tell us why, Ed.


Are you seriously sitting here, as a frickin "lawyer", claiming you don't understand why the preservation of the original copies of sensitive documents is important?

Just how fricking stupid are you? Because this is some Simple Jack shite you and the other "lawyer" are talking about in here.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:35 pm to
It depends on why you think it’s important. Are you concerned about their admissibility into court cases?
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:37 pm to
In other words, yes, you and SFP are both frickin retards.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:40 pm to
Do you think a witness cannot authenticate a photocopy of a document?
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:43 pm to
There are many reasons why original copies would be preferable to digitized copies. For instance, often times digital copies are redacted whereas originals are not. Boxes of documents may also contain unique items such as hand written notes that are not copied. Also, with intelligence agencies operating on a strict need-to-know basis, often times, even if there are copies, retaining the original copies can stymie declassification efforts. And there are even more reasons. But this alone is enough to show you to be the fricking fool you are.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

There are many reasons why original copies would be preferable to digitized copies. For instance, often times digital copies are redacted whereas originals are not. Boxes of documents may also contain unique items such as hand written notes that are not copied. Also, with intelligence agencies operating on a strict need-to-know basis, often times, even if there are copies, retaining the original copies can stymie declassification efforts. And there are even more reasons. But this alone is enough to show you to be the fricking fool you are.


@gork, can you confirm this?
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:49 pm to
Anyone who puts even the slightest bit of thought into it can confirm it. In this thread you have two "lawyers" claiming that theft of government property is no big deal because the ODNI likely has copies of the files.

They're fricking morons.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:49 pm to
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Who is saying this? Certainly not me.


What did you mean by this then?
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I would imagine they intend to destroy the documents.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:52 pm to
None of those are real concerns

I can make copies, both hard copy and digital, of handwritten notes. I can save versions both redacted and unredacted.

It’s actually much more simple than you’re making it. A witness can authenticate a photocopy of a document and while the substance of the document is by definition hearsay, there are various exceptions that can make it admissible based simply on its substance or the circumstances by which it was created.

None of that relies on the literal physical provenance of the document.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 1:54 pm
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:55 pm to
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What did you mean by this then?


Are you trying to bat .1000 on retarded? Here, listen to Anna Paulina Luna say it herself. If you want to jump ahead to where she says it it's at about the 1:30 mark.



So again, I'm reporting what the people in the middle of this are saying.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:55 pm to
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None of those are real concerns


Yes they are.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:56 pm to
Only to retards who don’t understand the rules of evidence.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:57 pm to
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Are you trying to bat .1000 on retarded?

I'm just trying to figure out how they're going to destroy something that has duplicate copies made

Why would you say that and then imply that you didn't think that there was only one copy? It doesn't make sense? And I don't think you know how decimals work either.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Anyone who puts even the slightest bit of thought into it can confirm it. In this thread you have two "lawyers" claiming that theft of government property is no big deal because the ODNI likely has copies of the files.


They're not saying the theft itself is no big deal

They're refuting your dumb claim that the evidence in the documents can be effectively "destroyed"

You're the one that said it bud
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:01 pm to
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Then why would the CIA engage in such an operation to destroy one (of many) copies of documents?

That would be retarded, as it would do nothing for them.

Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:01 pm to
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I'm just trying to figure out how they're going to destroy something that has duplicate copies made



So tell me you didn't listen to what she said without telling me you didn't listen to what she said.

The CIA claims that everything was either released or previously destroyed. They destroyed MK Ultra documents back in 1973. This is known. And now they have stolen these documents from the ODNI. Documents they previously said were either released or destroyed.

So aside from the reasons I already listed as to why retention of the original documents is important, you also have the possibility that there are no more copies.

quote:

And I don't think you know how decimals work either


Says the guy who only yesterday proved he doesn't know what the frick a gambling site is and also that he can't read.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:02 pm to
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They're refuting your dumb claim that the evidence in the documents can be effectively "destroyed"




Hillary did it and y'all almost elected her president.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 2:12 pm to
I didn't post this morning, because many here dismiss the Conservative Treehouse as nothing but conservative conspiracy theories, but Sundance at the lays this out perfectly and accurately.
Ratcliffe and Tulsi have been working together effectively at attempting to disassemble the very entity within the IC Brennan described.

I'm nobody but some guy on a message board, but I recommend reading the linked article and checking out the CT's daily information. Perform your own due diligence.

LINK
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