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Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:04 pm to Ribbed
The real solution here is to dramatically increase the size of Congress. We have been stuck at 435 Representatives for over 100 years, for no good reason. The FF clearly wanted the House to grow with the population.
We should triple the size of Congress. Let's see if Alabama can effectively gerrymander if they have to create 21 districts instead of just 7.
We should triple the size of Congress. Let's see if Alabama can effectively gerrymander if they have to create 21 districts instead of just 7.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:21 pm to thejuiceisloose
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You know who drew that district? The district drawing is an attempt to get as many AA votes in a district to make the other districts easy GOP victories
I don't care who it benefits. It's still bullshite.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:24 pm to Dday63
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Unfortunately, Alabama used to be 100% Democratic party, so they drew up districts to silence black votes. THAT clearly violated the 15th Amendment. The Voting Rights Act was intended to put a stop to that
So, yeah, I'm anti-gerrymandering, but this is where we are. All I said was I believe the Voting Rights Act and it's application here are Constitutional.
You and I appear to agree on the concept of gerrymandering, but I disagree on the constitutionality of it. If drawing up districts to benefit whites violates the 15th amendment, then drawing up districts to benefit blacks does as well.
You can't have it both ways.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:19 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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You and I appear to agree on the concept of gerrymandering, but I disagree on the constitutionality of it. If drawing up districts to benefit whites violates the 15th amendment, then drawing up districts to benefit blacks does as well.
You can't have it both ways.
What about redrawing districts that overwhelmingly benefited whites to be less overwhelmingly beneficial to whites?
FYI: used "whites" to make my argument. This is about political strongholds.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:58 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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What about redrawing districts that overwhelmingly benefited whites to be less overwhelmingly beneficial to whites?
FYI: used "whites" to make my argument. This is about political strongholds.
Using race in any form should be illegal. That's why hard boundaries should be used, such as county, city or precinct borders.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:05 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Using race in any form should be illegal. That's why hard boundaries should be used, such as county, city or precinct borders.
As I posted way earlier in this thread, we should reach a point where a legislature can show a non-racial purpose for its district lines, and if it happens to be disproportionate toward one race then that's just too bad. Such as simple geography and population
Right now Alabama just has too many possible district lines, so when they eliminate black voices it seems discriminatory. They are really just trying to silence Democratic candidates.
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