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re: Student loan bubble about to burst

Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:07 pm to
A lot of schools that don't need to exist would close their doors.

Schools that serve a purpose will cut costs and stop building resorts for athletes.

We would be fine in a couple years, I agree
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Education (especially higher education) is a privilege and not a righ

Basic education is a right for all citizens. Higher education is a privilege, but a privilege that all people should at least be able to attempt. My Dad paid his way through school by working three jobs all while going to school. That's simply not possible in today's society. The average cost of just tuition is around 14k a year. The price of college has got to go down, or else it will just be a place for rich children to socialize and get boozed up before getting jobs lined up by their parents, besides the few students lucky enough to get a scholarship.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:10 pm to
Not just tuition. Prices for dorms or other forms of student housing continuously increase because people know they have access to these never-denied 20-40k yearly loans
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:20 pm to
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Not just tuition. Prices for dorms or other forms of student housing continuously increase because people know they have access to these never-denied 20-40k yearly loans

So true, anything within walking distance to campus here is at bare minimum 450 a month per person with most being in the high 500 to 600s. Almost all college towns do have affordable housing in at least some areas, but they're never within walking distance to campus, forcing you to use the ever so slow university sponsored transportation
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:21 pm to
Online education is going to get better and cheaper.

The education bureaucracy that has run up these cost will not be able to avoid it.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:25 pm to
After reading this, it appears to me that 21 percent of all federal government student loan money issued since 2009 to 24 percent of all borrowers, has already been essentially forgiven.

Math majors, unite.

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Under changes made by the Obama administration, more borrowers were allowed to lower their monthly student loan payments based on their income. The relief was welcomed by recent grads who hadn't yet landed a high-paying job, as well as others who were struggling financially after the Great Recession and feared defaulting on their loans.

But the expanded income-driven repayment plans come at a cost to the federal government, which lends about $100 billion in student loans each year. The program loses money because some participants, over the life of their loans, will pay less than they would under a standard repayment plan.

It's difficult to predict how much the program will cost in the future. But the Government Accountability Office estimates that loans issued between 2009 and 2016, originally projected to cost $25 billion, will cost $53 billion.
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The GAO found that the government will lose $21 for every $100 in student loans issued to someone who takes advantage of an income-driven repayment plan.

The number of people enrolling in these repayment plans has far outpaced what was expected. About 5.3 million people (24% of all borrowers) are currently paying back their loans this way, the report said

Obama's student loan policy is costing twice as much as expected
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10292 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:33 pm to
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And I, for one, welcome the coming collapse. Education (especially higher education) is a privilege and not a right. It's time we abolish the racket that is the Ivory Tower. And I say this as an employee of said tower.


It should be reasonably affordable for people who want to go to college. It should not be reserved for the rich and the elite.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:36 pm to
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It should be reasonably affordable for people who want to go to college. It should not be reserved for the rich and the elite.

Neither should loans be seen as a means for upper middle-class people to have bigger boats or multiple Harleys at the detriment of saving for the children/s education.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10292 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:08 pm to
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Neither should loans be seen as a means for upper middle-class people to have bigger boats or multiple Harleys at the detriment of saving for the children/s education.


I am not sure that it is the parents' responsibility to save for their children's college education, but do you think that's the only reason why parents cannot afford it?

Used to be you could pay for a college education just by working a summer job. Good luck doing that now.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:11 pm to
Note that even nonprofit Universities are for revenue universities.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:15 pm to
Wonder how much loan money was spent on spring break?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39562 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 4:21 pm to
I suspect that a problem with much of the incurred debt vs. the REAL market value of said education...is that the education (in many instances) may be directed at Government employment jobs in the 'social services' sector. As such...market value is minimal, in real productivity.

Not that societal dysfunction is not a problem...just that the solution is so far beyond any viable cost/benefit ratio...that for all practical purposes it's a form of economic dysfunction.

Book it...there are a ton of *diploma mills* turning out grads who were in line to take their seat in the Obama/Progressive Machine. Which has now had the Trump 'wrench' thrown into the cogs. So yeah...the 'loan bubble' is about to burst.
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