Tariffs haven’t grown the government though.

Lol, so let me explain this.
Subsidies are going towards companies that are contributing to the economy in a positive way. And often times the “subsidy” is nothing more than allowing the company to keep more of the money it generated from producing it’s good or service.

Welfare is giving people something for having done nothing. It is purposefully promoting parasitic behavior. And it is an absolute waste that does nothing good.

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Posted by buckeye_vol

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Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:50 pm to makinskrilla

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It there to conserve the constitution dumbass. And strictly limit govt as to the confines set forth by the constitution.

And those who actually believe this are small-government conservatives. Unfortunately, too many people seem to pick and choose which parts of the constitution they value.

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Liberals who interpret the constitution as a “living document” use it to expand government.

I would argue that these people are "progressives" who don't know what liberalism actually is. But then again, maybe that's similar to the big government conservatives.

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Unfortunately in the 20th century we have only had 2 conservatives presidents (Coolidge and Reagan.)

This is kind of my point. A bunch of people describe themselves as "conservative," but apparently only a few actually are according to you.

So if so many are identifying as conservatives, maybe conservatism is broader than which you've identified and there are subset of it that share some beliefs and differ on others.

On the other hand, if only a few who actually identify as conservative are actually conservatives, then isn't that also true with liberalism as well, like the progs who identify as liberals?

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rand is a libertarian, not a conservative.

But Rand supports a lot of conservative values as well, and is a lot different than libertarians who don't share those values.

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Conservatives want a strong national defense

And what position does Rand hold that would imply he doesn't want a strong national defense? He doesn't like endless wars and meddling in foreign nations. Does that mean he doesn't want a strong defense? And isn't that big government anyways?

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Posted by buckeye_vol

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Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:56 pm to jnethe1

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Tariffs haven’t grown the government though.

How has it not grown the government? Not only is it meddling in the business of companies who aren't part of the government, it's a tax so it's by it's very nature growing the government.

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Subsidies are going towards companies that are contributing to the economy in a positive way.

Not every subsidy is for contributing. Some agricultural subsidies were given to farmers to NOT GROW ANYTHING.

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And often times the “subsidy” is nothing more than allowing the company to keep more of the money it generated from producing it’s good or service.

Yeah. I hate when these are describes as subsidies. Although I guess when they become specific to one sector while others do not get the same, it seems more of a subsidy.

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