re: Stop using the terms "progressive" and "liberal"

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I prefer using “progressive”. Progressives are globalists... they want your money and your individual freedom and can be found in BOTH parties. They support one world government and one world religion are dangerous to American sovereignty. Expose them!!!

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I see

You think globalism is "progress"

I'll hang up and listen

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In that case, what should those who unequivocally support Trump, without any moral or ethical reservation, be called?

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this sailed over your head

no one is talking about anyone on the right moving any spectrums

everything you just wrote is complete shite

seriously



a conservative view of the "most liberal document ever written" (the US Constitution) is a belief in freedom. same with a conservative view of it's amendments

I use the term socialist

(no message)

the history of the world denotes more than 99% of that time being govt of tyranny

the US Constitution was a break from that, a document of liberty.

Smart thinkers have a conservative viewpoint of that document of liberty. We believe in freedom. We adhere to that document of freedom. We respect it. We defend it.

Leftists hate it. They despise it. They want tyranny. They want our money. They want us dead.

Liberals are a different animal than that. True liberals are wrong on a bunch of stuff IMO. But they're not into tyranny and death.

And it's laughable to say what the other guy is saying, that one of the most prolific political statuses in the history of America is "now defunct" - they may almost be, but IT is not.

dixiechick, they've stolen the word progressive.

Say it to yourself: they've stolen the word progressive



progress is not bad shite

progress is good shite

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Again, you're jumping to conclusions about what you think I think.

What I'm saying is correct. Wholly.

Some of what you said is absolutely correct, and you mixed that in with some dipshit bullshite. RINO's for instance. I want to punch them in the face. Is that better? You feel better now tough guy?

Go back to the fundamentals of this thread, and read, and learn.

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Fundamentals of this thread?

Harry Rex Vonner: "I'm a Classic Liberal, and I want to distance myself from the far Left!"

Trust me, everyone understands what you're trying to do.

But again, the problem is you still believe in shite ideology and talking points.

I'm happy you don't want the foundational concepts of Liberalism tarnished by extreme Leftism. I promise you, every Righty in this joint, and some of the Lefties, all agree with this.

It doesn't change the fact that even the most "virtuous" Liberalism sucks huge donkey dicks, though.

Tax and spend sucks.
Over-regulation sucks.
Welfare sucks.
Affirmative action sucks.
Bottom-up economics sucks.
Anything anti-free market/anti-business sucks.
Pro-immigration sucks.
Attempting to force equality sucks.

These are basis Liberal foundations, and they all blow.

Notice I didn't mention political correctness, identity politics, gun control, globalism, or climate change?

Because I know those are mostly exploited and misrepresented by the extreme Left.

But the foundations of Liberalism are still shite even without the extreme Left hijacking it all to help push their ultimate agenda.

In fact, the mere fact the extreme Left can and have hijacked Liberal principles to help forward their ultimate goals of totalitarianism and statism just goes to show you how flawed the general principles and foundations of Liberalism are.

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Trust me, everyone understands what you're trying to do.

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damn you're fricking stupid