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Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:20 pm to troyt37
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A democracy is a country where majority rules, unrestrained by things like the Constitution, the Electoral College and three separate yet equal branches of government.
That sounds like a direct democracy, a hyper-specific type of democracy.
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We don't have that,
Nobody argued we had a direct democracy
In fact, it has been stated numerous times ITT that we don't have a direct or true form of democracy. For whatever reason you ignored it.
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We simply use a democratic process to elect our representatives to government,
Which makes us a democracy and a republic.
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all of which are bound and restrained individually and collectively by the Constitution
Which makes us a constitutional form of democracy and republic.
We're also a federal system.
Where have we heard this before ITT?
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We are a:
Constitutional
Federal
Democratic
Republic
Our system involves all of those factors.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:21 pm to DTRooster
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50% + 1 having total control.
That's a hyper-specific form of democracy, a direct/true democracy.
You defined one very specific type of democracy.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
That’s what those mthrfkers want. Concrete walking big city do nothing morons making all the rules. That is their definition of Democracy and that’s what they’re crying about, make no mistake
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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We are a constitutional -x, first and foremost.
So a Constitutional Republic. Coolio.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:36 pm to Tasseo
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So a Constitutional Republic. Coolio.
Constitutional
Federal
Democratic
Republic
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP can spin and talk out his arse all he wants. Words matter and facts are all that counts and the fact is the word " democracy " doesn't appear in the Constitution nor the Declaration of Independence . The only word used by our founding fathers is " Republic ".
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:41 pm to SOSFAN
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Words matter and facts are all that counts and the fact is the word " democracy " doesn't appear in the Constitution
But vote/voting and election(s) do.
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nor the Declaration of Independence .
Irrelevant. The words we type in this thread have as much impact on our government as the DOI.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:41 pm to SOSFAN
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The only word used by our founding fathers is " Republic ".
Why are y'all so obsessed with turning this into a binary scenario?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:42 pm to BugAC
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You left off a pretty major portion there chief.
The context of my post was the word " republic " and had nothing to do with what you're attempting to twist it into.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why are y'all so obsessed with turning this into a binary scenario?
Why are you obsessed with refusing to acknowledge that the most important set of documents , that shaped our country, only uses the word " Republic " and not " democracy ".
Your opinion of the issue doesn't supercede the facts.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:47 pm to SOSFAN
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Why are you obsessed with refusing to acknowledge that the most important set of documents , that shaped our country, only uses the word " Republic " and not " democracy ".
I never said otherwise, I just pointed out the democratic-based language used (which you did not acknowledge, ironically).
I have said we are a republic. I have never waivered from that stance.
We are a:
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Constitutional
Federal
Democratic
Republic
See? I never excluded the republic part.
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Your opinion of the issue doesn't supercede the facts.
And the facts are, we are a:
Constitutional
Federal
Democratic
Republic
We are all of those things. It's not a binary either/or. So I ask again:
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Why are y'all so obsessed with turning this into a binary scenario?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:48 pm to TN Tygah
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a representative democracy
The literal definition of a Republic.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:50 pm to Rebel
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The literal definition of a Republic.
No. Republics do not have to be democracies.
The systems just rely on representatives who make laws/rules/policies.
Typically, it's a democracy in conjunction with a republic, but it doesn't have to be.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
At least you admitted you were wrong.
But why do you have to take every thread you enter and try to twist it and harp on some minute part of the conversation and then make post after post about that subject.
But why do you have to take every thread you enter and try to twist it and harp on some minute part of the conversation and then make post after post about that subject.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:58 pm to SOSFAN
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At least you admitted you were wrong.
I see we're at the "making shite up" part. The ad hom attacks and white flags are soon to come.
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But why do you have to take every thread you enter and try to twist it and harp on some minute part of the conversation and then make post after post about that subject.
The thread's OP agrees with me.
You may want to ask the quoted question above to yourself. Why are you coming in here posing incorrect and incoherent arguments? Then doubling down on that by making shite up and relying on straw men?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why are y'all so obsessed with turning this into a binary scenario?
Lies don't make your opinions correct. I'm still waiting for you to show me where the founding fathers used the word " democracy " instead of " republic " in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence. When you do I will nod my head and walk away.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:02 pm to Rebel
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The literal definition of a Republic.
Not true, but you proved my point in your post. If it were the definition of a Republic, that means it’s both. It’s not btw.
Honestly there are so many fricking morons in here. I agree with a lot that’s said on poli board but jeez man… it’s not an either / or.
You guys just sound dumb when you say “durrrr dur dur we’re not a democracy we’re a republic”
We’re a representative democracy, and a republic. But since it doesn’t say “we are a democracy” in the pledge of allegiance, for some reason that means we’re not a democracy.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:03 pm to SOSFAN
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Lies don't make your opinions correct. I'm still waiting for you to show me where the founding fathers used the word " democracy " instead of " republic " in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence. When you do I will nod my head and walk away.
Look up the definition of representative democracy. It is not that hard.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:04 pm to Barstools
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Well, we aren't a true democracy, so eat my a-hole.
You’re confusing true democracy with direct democracy.
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