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re: So. Since a President apparently cannot lean on a foreign govt to investigate a crime

Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14933 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:11 pm to
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The left would have lost its shite if Barr or the state department pressured the Ukraine and you fricking know it but just continue pretending for page after page
Why are you doing all this "what would have happened" crap.

Trump could have used his AG or his State Dept, but he didn't because he didn't want it to come back on him that he had coersed Ukraine to open an investigation by withholding aid that had been appropriated by Congress.

Trump wanted to have plausible deniability so he could lie and say he had nothing to do with Ukraine opening an investigation, and so he could claim that Ukraine just decided on its very own to open an investigation into a political adversary of his, based on something that happened over 3 1/2 years ago.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:13 pm to
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point is that if we accept the democrat narrative that calling for the investigation of a political opponent is, at best, unAmerican and, at worst, treason, then American politicos are basically unbound by any law. Because their own party certainly isn’t going to hold them accountable. If the opposing party can’t, then there is no rule of law for the ruling class.


Meanwhile, 9th is up in here playing the "have it both ways" game by saying, "OMG, it is soooooo horrible that Trump went after a political opponent using another country"...……..BUT...………."if Trump had used Barr or the State department to do it...………..all good"

It's so fricking absurd he should honestly be embarrassed but apparently, being a liberal means having no shame.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48707 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:14 pm to
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Trump wanted to have plausible deniability so he could lie and say he had nothing to do with Ukraine opening an investigation, and so he could claim that Ukraine just decided on its very own to open an investigation into a political adversary of his, based on something that happened over 3 1/2 years ago.


Why would he want to deny that?

And is the statute of limitations for political corruption, bribery, and malfeasance in office now 3 1/2 years?

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:15 pm to
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Trump could have used his AG or his State Dept, but he didn't because he didn't want it to come back on him that he had coersed Ukraine to open an investigation by withholding aid that had been appropriated by Congress. Trump wanted to have plausible deniability so he could lie and say he had nothing to do with Ukraine opening an investigation, and so he could claim that Ukraine just decided on its very own to open an investigation into a political adversary of his, based on something that happened over 3 1/2 years ago.


Uh. Presidents know their calls with foreign nations are listened to.

That's not a very effective plausible deniability route.

Just sayin.....
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14933 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:59 pm to
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And is the statute of limitations for political corruption, bribery, and malfeasance in office now 3 1/2 years?
Not the brightest bulb, are you?

The statute of limitations has zero to do with it.

What would be the reason given why Ukraine suddenly decided to investigate a crime that happened in plain sight more than 3 1/2 years ago.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 5:42 am to
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What would be the reason given why Ukraine suddenly decided to investigate a crime that happened in plain sight more than 3 1/2 years ago.


Because the American Vice President who was threatening them for investigating it is no longer in office.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 5:44 am to
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Not the brightest bulb, are you?

The statute of limitations has zero to do with it.

What would be the reason given why Ukraine suddenly decided to investigate a crime that happened in plain sight more than 3 1/2 years ago.




because they have been trying to give us information about it for more than 2 years and that corrupt obama holdover ambassador and other holdovers were stopping them

Hey dumb shite, read the fricking news and keep up.

what a fricking idiot
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:01 am to
you dont need to paraphrase my words, rob.

they are posted in here. i never said OMG its so horrible.

you asked a fricking question (a dumb one at that) and i answered it.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14933 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:29 pm to
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because they have been trying to give us information about it for more than 2 years and that corrupt obama holdover ambassador and other holdovers were stopping them Hey dumb shite, read the fricking news and keep up.
Why don't you post something that shows that dumbshite?

I won't wait for an answer. Because you are all mouth.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
78119 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:30 pm to
DixRider the angry poster returns!
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14933 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Because the American Vice President who was threatening them for investigating it is no longer in office.
He wasn't in office for 2017 or 2018 also.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41960 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 3:32 pm to
When you circling back to argue for your girl, two front doors?
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