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Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:14 am to moneyg
quote:you were acting like you didn't know if that particular evidence made it into court. like ANY evidence made it into court
Who said otherwise
quote:as multiple people are pointing out to you, you are the one getting confused
You aren’t keeping up
quote:not when you're questioning the source instead of the information
That what we are trying to determine
look, you're not fooling people with this routine ok.
quote:why? look up the ad verecundiam fallacy
I do know that I believe a former military intelligence officer vs. someone who is not a former military officer
quote:again, this doesn't affect the actual information
I also know that I believe someone who matches their description in a court filing vs someone who doesn’t
quote:actually i'm the factual one calling out your emotional bullcrap. tell me one "emotional" thing i said or anything i said that's not factual
ou are humorously emotional about this
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:22 am to moneyg
quote:"pushing very false information"
I absolutely NEVER said that any kind of fraud was objectively disproven
"now known misinformation"
quote:again, you have been asked to prove how you know it's false and how you know the iditiotic idea that she's only doing this for money
some of the information she was pushing was false. In particular, I pointed to the seizure of servers with proof of the fraud
quote:i just quoted you. with facts. you are making emotional claims like she's in it for the money or i believe this person over another person. those are not factual statements halfwit. those are subjective judgments.
You are having trouble keeping up because you are being emotional about it
but keep talking about who's not keeping up
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:23 am to omegaman66
quote:
we don't have real elections
This^^ 100 percent.
If otherwise, there would be no issues with audits & actual VALIDATION of votes for POTUS. If so, we could all move on.
Every American should be pissed off that America can audit lotto ticket sales exponentially more efficient & accurately than votes for POTUS.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:25 am to Sentrius
quote:my word you join the thread multiple pages in and then say something stupid that's repeatedly been refuted
Sentrius
quote:you mean other than all the things she has already brought up? how do you know they're false.
she never had anything in the first place
quote:SHE TRIED TO genius. the cases were dismissed, not on evidence.
If she had something, it would've been released before the EC certification
this country is doomed. half of the country is functionally retarded
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:26 am to Captain Rumbeard
quote:how do you know she can't if a judge would finally let a case go to trial? you don't. you're just being stupid like the other morons itt
That bitch needs to deliver or GTFO. Done with her bullshite.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:29 am to shel311
quote:when did this happen? when was an election case dismissed because of "lack of evidence?" cite the case. have you read ANY of the dismissals?
those republican appointed judges who scolded the Trump lawsuits for lack of evidence
we deserve to be conquered. there are countless people who don't even know the basic facts of the election for the highest office of the land
quote:they made it clear that they didn't want election cases in their courts which means proper investigation of the allegations has STILL not happened in even one instance. does that bother you?
were in on the conspiracy!
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:29 am to bfniii
quote:
half of the country is functionally retarded
And the other half is comprised of non-functional retards
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:35 am to bfniii
Is proper investigations meant done by the DOJ, FBI and CIA. Yeah right, they gonna do em right.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:36 am to Barstools
it's just unbelievable. i have watched this board since the election and there is a swath of people who throw conclusions around when they don't even know the facts. they aren't joining threads to inquire about what happened.
and the fraud threads were front and center here for 2 freaking months. then people just act like they never happened. all the photos, all the videos, that was just in people's imagination. what really happened were a few facebook posts.
as if that weren't bad enough, then morons start parroting muh court cases and they don't know the first thing about any of them
war for the planet of the apes was right on the money. humans are getting stupider
and the fraud threads were front and center here for 2 freaking months. then people just act like they never happened. all the photos, all the videos, that was just in people's imagination. what really happened were a few facebook posts.
as if that weren't bad enough, then morons start parroting muh court cases and they don't know the first thing about any of them
war for the planet of the apes was right on the money. humans are getting stupider
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:41 am to bfniii
quote:
what is wrong with these people. are you retarded? what reason do we have to doubt her right now? she's presented evidence that seems solid and no one has refuted it with contradictory evidence
I think it would be awesome to do a thread with a retroactive view of the claims Powell has made, tie each of them to the evidence she's presented to back it up (if applicable) and get people to offer a critical view of that evidence.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:41 am to yattan
quote:in all fairness, there have been 2 or 3 post election recounts but, none were done publicly, transparently and impartially. of course, it was claimed that they were but, how would anyone know? already problematic votes were recounted. what good does that do? machines were allegedly tested and found to be working correctly but, no one will turn the machines over for independent analysis. the maricopa people are STILL fighting to keep the machines from the public under threat of jail time
Is proper investigations meant done by the DOJ, FBI and CIA. Yeah right, they gonna do em right
and then people are saying "it's time to move on." seriously, as long as the majority of people have instagram, they couldn't care less who is running the country or what's going on in govt
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:42 am to bfniii
People just want to be comfortable, and the communists have made “no fraud” the safer position to take. Truth be damned.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:44 am to bfniii
quote:
you were acting like you didn't know if that particular evidence made it into court. like ANY evidence made it into court
You aren't keeping up. Powell in her FILINGS to the court submitted a ton of evidence and claims. The servers being seized were not in a filing. That the courts never took the cases is not relevant to whether she made a claim in court vs. public.
One thing she's accused of is misrepresenting her expert witness as former "Military Intelligence" in her filings. That begs a lot of questions.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:46 am to moneyg
quote:we've already covered that ground. our elected leaders are not at all bothered by these allegations. no one is investigating. in fact, they are doing everything in their power to stymie investigation and discredit the people who are making the claims. this was not dog catcher election. it's the freaking president. we now potentially have an illegitimate administration running our country doing who knows what and people just don't care. there should be pitchforks and torches by now.
I think it would be awesome to do a thread with a retroactive view of the claims Powell has made, tie each of them to the evidence she's presented to back it up (if applicable) and get people to offer a critical view of that evidence
we deserve everything that happens. people don't even care that their freedom of movement is being challenged, their free access to information is hastily being curtailed and the capitol is an occupied territory. it's frightening how fast the country is changing to a communist state.
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Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:50 am to bfniii
quote:
I absolutely NEVER said that any kind of fraud was objectively disproven
"pushing very false information"
"now known misinformation"
I was specifically referring to the servers being seized. I wasn't saying all fraud had been disproven. I believe there was tons of fraud.
There's no evidence of servers being seized. The company denies it. I don't think Powell even believes it anymore.
I want to know how she was fooled into believing it, who gave her that info, and then figure out how much other information that she has is related to the same group who gave her that information.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:51 am to moneyg
I think we actually agree, and I’m not trying to put words in your mouth.
I guess the shoot out over machines to me overseas never seemed to be an issue she pushed or was relying on to prove anything, and you seem to think this is a major problem. I disagree with you that this was the crushing blow of her credibility, but otherwise, I think we’re on the same page.
I think she’s got some rehab to do on her credibility which was harmed by she and Rudy not being on the same page about the best approach so there was no unified strategy. Rudy wanted to count dead people voting and Sidney wanted to focus on machines. I think they would have been more effective had they focused on both.
I also think she was harmed by Lin Wood who went a lot bonkers with some of his public statements. It was also harmed by some of the news outlets she chose. However, I think these outlets and Wood were her only alternative bc she was banned essentially from social media and major news organizations, and don’t even start me on Big Law and it’s utter failings to my profession and its ideals.
I believe her Powell’s theories have always been supported by evidence that she had the stones to go on record with. I guess I just have always been willing to believe her bc filing a verified complaint goes above and beyond what was required.
The machines were involved in this somehow. Space aliens and pedophiles, not as likely. Foreign governments probably thru indirect means (funding and infrastructure). I’ve never seen SP pushing stuff like that - but some people she has been forced to and chosen to align herself with have. It’s unfortunate. But she’s not a grifter or a liar. And it makes me sad that people accuse her of such.
I guess the shoot out over machines to me overseas never seemed to be an issue she pushed or was relying on to prove anything, and you seem to think this is a major problem. I disagree with you that this was the crushing blow of her credibility, but otherwise, I think we’re on the same page.
I think she’s got some rehab to do on her credibility which was harmed by she and Rudy not being on the same page about the best approach so there was no unified strategy. Rudy wanted to count dead people voting and Sidney wanted to focus on machines. I think they would have been more effective had they focused on both.
I also think she was harmed by Lin Wood who went a lot bonkers with some of his public statements. It was also harmed by some of the news outlets she chose. However, I think these outlets and Wood were her only alternative bc she was banned essentially from social media and major news organizations, and don’t even start me on Big Law and it’s utter failings to my profession and its ideals.
I believe her Powell’s theories have always been supported by evidence that she had the stones to go on record with. I guess I just have always been willing to believe her bc filing a verified complaint goes above and beyond what was required.
The machines were involved in this somehow. Space aliens and pedophiles, not as likely. Foreign governments probably thru indirect means (funding and infrastructure). I’ve never seen SP pushing stuff like that - but some people she has been forced to and chosen to align herself with have. It’s unfortunate. But she’s not a grifter or a liar. And it makes me sad that people accuse her of such.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:54 am to moneyg
quote:filings don't make it before a jury unless the judge doesn't dismiss the case. right? that's the complaint. no one is hearing the evidence. no one is investigating. this is all being swept under the rug and the people who are making the claims are being demonized.
You aren't keeping up. Powell in her FILINGS to the court submitted a ton of evidence and claims
quote:yes, we know that. however, she did cite the cyberdata report which should have led to an investigation of the servers issue. right? the cyberdata itself presupposed that the servers were in a foreign country because the expert showed active connections from the machines to addresses in germany. oh and as a bonus gift, other foreign addresses were actively connected to those addresses during the election. but people can't seem to be bothered by that because krebs assured them this was the most secure election evar
The servers being seized were not in a filing
quote:it is. it should have been a domino effect.
That the courts never took the cases is not relevant to whether she made a claim in court vs. public.
quote:and this is the kind of bullcrap technicality that is being paraded as a reason to not investigate election fraud. people just don't care. they will make up any stupid excuse to not look at the evidence
One thing she's accused of is misrepresenting her expert witness as former "Military Intelligence" in her filings
you can stop saying "keeping up" now. it's stupid. we understand the dynamics and facts. you are getting confused
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:54 am to bfniii
quote:
we've already covered that ground. our elected leaders are not at all bothered by these allegations. no one is investigating. in fact, they are doing everything in their power to stymie investigation and discredit the people who are making the claims. this was not dog catcher election. it's the freaking president. we now potentially have an illegitimate administration running our country doing who knows what and people just don't care. there should be pitchforks and torches by now.
I agree that the Biden is illegitimate.
But, it's important to understand what actually happened and what didn't. It's important to understand what we heard prior to Jan 20 that was fake vs. real because the fake stuff absolutely interfered with making a case based on the real fraud.
Sidney was the most respected voice making the strongest claims. It's reasonable to want her to give those that believed her a status on all of the claims she made and enlighten us on how some of the false claims came to be.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 8:58 am to moneyg
quote:yes, i know that. that's why i quoted it. i wasn't referring to fraud in general. you said you didn't say that. i quoted where you did.
I was specifically referring to the servers being seized. I wasn't saying all fraud had been disproven
quote:prove it. show your work
There's no evidence of servers being seized
quote:ok chris krebs
The company denies it
quote:see there you go again, making an emotional, subjective statement without any facts whatsoever
she was fooled into believing it
quote:she tried to present it in court but was denied by the judge. the cyber report is out for you to read. go check it out.
who gave her that info
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