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re: Senate votes to block Obama gun control rule

Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 7:58 pm to
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grown arse man or woman doesn't have the mental aptitude to balance a checkbook maybe them not having a gun is a good thing.



I know a ton of normal intelligent people who have trouble managing their money.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13376 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:23 pm to
Pretty good summary on this idiotic rule by the ACLU (who supported the resolution):
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We oppose this rule because it advances and reinforces the harmful stereotype that people with mental disabilities, a vast and diverse group of citizens, are violent. There is no data to support a connection between the need for a representative payee to manage one’s Social Security disability benefits and a propensity toward gun violence. The rule further demonstrates the damaging phenomenon of “spread,” or the perception that a disabled individual with one area of impairment automatically has additional, negative and unrelated attributes. Here, the rule automatically conflates one disability-related characteristic, that is, difficulty managing money, with the inability to safely possess a firearm.

The rule includes no meaningful due process protections prior to the SSA’s transmittal of names to the NICS database. The determination by SSA line staff that a beneficiary needs a representative payee to manage their money benefit is simply not an “adjudication” in any ordinary meaning of the word. Nor is it a determination that the person “[l]acks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs” as required by the NICS. Indeed, the law and the SSA clearly state that representative payees are appointed for many individuals who are legally competent


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This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 8:25 pm
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:46 pm to
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Senate votes to block Obama gun control rule
This is certainly not "fake news." the Republican Party is enacting national legislation to allow seriously mentally ill people to buy whatever guns they want to buy. Clearing the way for mentally ill people to buy guns is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
If you don't want crazy people to have guns, you need to amend the Constitution. The Constitution says the right shall not be infringed. It states no exceptions. Barring crazy people from buying guns equals infringing.
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