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re: Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God--WSJ--Eric Metaxas

Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:01 pm to


If that isn't a bootstrap...
Posted by Loveland Tiger
Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
5259 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:27 pm to
20,000 plus children under 5 die every day. EVERY DAY. Many in their parents arms.

That's all the proof I need. Your god is a monster. Thankfully, there is not a single shred of evidence that there is a monster call yalweeee in the sky doing magic.

This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 2:28 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56468 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:29 pm to
So since there is no god....who do you blame for the dying children? It seems like you sure are angry. Just wondering who you direct that anger towards.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20718 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:30 pm to
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The fact that more and more people are realizing that some magic guy didn't create the universe has created the "stigma" around people of your mythology. You guys are your own worst enemy.


You sure do come off as insecure. You predictably come up on threads that touch on religion and seem so needy to belittle a differing opinion of faith/religious beliefs. Why? You're "pro-choice"...why not let those who choose to believe in God believe in God without demeaning them...or at least debate the subject in a respectful manner?
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Loveland Tiger
Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
5259 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:31 pm to
You are referencing the the cosmological constant argument. I recommend starting with the lectures of Leonard Susskind of Stanford.

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:32 pm to
why would people suffering disprove a god?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20718 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

20,000 plus children under 5 die every day. EVERY DAY. Many in their parents arms.


Blame Adam and Eve for allowing Satan to do this...if you don't understand what the original sin did then don't try to blame the consequences on God.
Posted by Loveland Tiger
Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
5259 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:36 pm to
Evidence disproves god. Buy since evidence doesn't matter to this crowd, lets try reason.

Why would god create such a monstrous world? The devil made him do it isn't a reasonable answer.

Posted by Loveland Tiger
Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
5259 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:37 pm to
Evolution disproves the adam and eve myth. I can say it again if you will listen.

Posted by Loveland Tiger
Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
5259 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Blame Adam and Eve for allowing Satan to do this


Predictable, but not reasonable. More like delusion.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Blame Adam and Eve for allowing Satan to do this...if you don't understand what the original sin did then don't try to blame the consequences on God.


In fairness, you can still blame God. It's not like it is some rock solid rule that Humanity is to suffer hardship for eternity because Adam and Eve chose not to stay blind and naked. God is the one that decided that.
Posted by Loveland Tiger
Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
5259 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:40 pm to
They hold their god accountable for NOTHING. It's playing tennis without a net.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56468 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:41 pm to
I have a feeling you think you are a lot smarter that you are...

Try making your case without using bootstrap arguments and logical fallacies. impress us
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20718 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Evolution disproves the adam and eve myth. I can say it again if you will listen.


See, you are going to believe in your rendition of how things began with the evidence you feel is valid and I am going to believe my version with the evidence I have from my studies and life experience. At the end of the day, I am secure enough in my beliefs to not have to point fingers and say to someone else who differs in my views "ooh ooh, you're so ridiculous for believing that myth of evolution".
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

You sure do come off as insecure. You predictably come up on threads that touch on religion and seem so needy to belittle a differing opinion of faith/religious beliefs. Why? You're "pro-choice"...why not let those who choose to believe in God believe in God without demeaning them...or at least debate the subject in a respectful manner?



Team Jesus is incapable of debating the matter.

Team Jesus expect blind faith in something that they them selves admit they cannot prove exists.

You can't debate with people like this.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Blame Adam and Eve for allowing Satan to do this...if you don't understand what the original sin did then don't try to blame the consequences on God.




I know you two are hungry and stuff, but don't eat the apples off this one tree...sitting here...in the middle of this patch of land.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Try making your case without using bootstrap arguments and logical fallacies. impress us


Prove to us that god exists.

Use evidence...not faith.

Pretty simple right?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56468 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:48 pm to
Tough to debate a bootstrap too. Seems common among the "I have it all figured out" crowd.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

no.

The fact that more and more people are realizing that some magic guy didn't create the universe has created the "stigma" around people of your mythology.

You guys are your own worst enemy


Pretty amazing you are so absolutely sure. How arrogant is that? After thousands of years of speculation and research no one has been able to prove or disprove the existence of God BUT right here on TD Asurob1 has spoken definitively on the matter. There is no possible way anyone that disagrees shares his intelligence.

The author is making a case you simply don't want to hear.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56468 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:49 pm to
could the same question be asked about disproving a god? Once again...tough to argue with a bootstrap.
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