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re: Russia is not our enemy
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:51 pm to Beau Fontenot
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:51 pm to Beau Fontenot
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I can't believe you're so poorly educated that you can't see that Putin is just another Soviet. You're a dangerous man, but little more than a symptom of what's wrong with our country. A bunch of extremely poorly educated people that spent way too much time in business school and not enough time in History and humanities.
You claim Putin is “just another Soviet,” which tells me you either don’t understand history or you’re just repeating what you’ve been told. Putin’s rise to power was a direct result of the economic and social collapse that followed U.S. backed policies in the ‘90s. After the Soviet collapse, American economists flooded into Russia, pushing ‘shock therapy’ reforms that led to mass privatization, the looting of state assets, and the rise of oligarchs. The Russian people were plunged into chaos: poverty, crime, and corruption exploded. Yeltsin, the West’s puppet, let it happen. Putin came to power in response to that, not to ‘revive the USSR.’
More importantly, if you actually paid attention to what’s happening today, you’d see that Putin isn’t spreading communism. He’s actively fighting against the globalist, left-wing ideology that Western elites are pushing. He’s not invading countries to spread Marxism, he’s not forcing other nations into some ideological empire, and he’s certainly not trying to destroy Western culture.
That’s actually happening inside our own borders, from the same people telling you Russia is your enemy. Who is pushing censorship, mass migration, deindustrialization, and the erosion of national identity? It’s not Russia. it’s the people running this country.
Eisenhower warned us about this in 1961 when he cautioned against the unchecked power of the military-industrial complex. The same defense contractors that profit from endless war are the ones funding think tanks, lobbying politicians, and driving media narratives that keep Americans in a perpetual state of fear. And people like you eat it up without question.
Meanwhile, you invoke Patton as if he supports your argument, but Patton wanted to fight the Soviets in 1945, not the modern Russia you see in 2025. He fought against communism, not nationalism. If anything, he’d be disgusted by what the U.S. has become: weak, deindustrialized, and controlled by an elite class more concerned with global power than its own people.
So instead of throwing lazy insults, maybe step back and ask why you’re so invested in defending the same establishment that’s selling you out. Or just admit you don’t have an argument.
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Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:51 pm to Lima Whiskey
He would respect Putin, but he would also want to sock the shite out of him to prove Americans have bigger nuts
Patton was an American exceptionalist. He did not worship foreigners.
No different than how McArthur beat the frick out of the commies in Korea, drove them all the way to Chinese border, and then got zero support from the homeland while China poured in hundreds of thousands of troops to push us back to the current border
Patton was an American exceptionalist. He did not worship foreigners.
No different than how McArthur beat the frick out of the commies in Korea, drove them all the way to Chinese border, and then got zero support from the homeland while China poured in hundreds of thousands of troops to push us back to the current border
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:52 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Patton would despise Zelensky
Putin, he would likely respect
Doubtful. I've studied Patton. He'd be in Ukraine fighting that murderous punk. And he'd stick his foot so far up your arse you're be wearing your arse for a hat. Just for being a fascist.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:55 pm to rmnldr
Russia isn’t our friend. But Ukraine isn’t either.
If a Russian and a Ukrainian walked into a bar, you couldn’t tell the difference.
It’s basically a civil war. You only need to stand with the USA. The rest of the world hates us embrace and accept it.
If a Russian and a Ukrainian walked into a bar, you couldn’t tell the difference.
It’s basically a civil war. You only need to stand with the USA. The rest of the world hates us embrace and accept it.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:56 pm to Beau Fontenot
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Doubtful. I've studied Patton. He'd be in Ukraine fighting that murderous punk. And he'd stick his foot so far up your arse you're be wearing your arse for a hat. Just for being a fascist.
Patton fought to destroy communism, not defend it. He openly despised the Soviets and wanted to push east after WWII to stop them from taking over Eastern Europe. If he were alive today, he wouldn’t be fighting to protect a corrupt government propped up by the same globalists he hated. And he sure as hell wouldn’t be siding with people waving Soviet flags at protests while screeching “fascist” at anyone who disagrees with them.
Meanwhile, you throw around “fascist” like it’s some kind of magic word that makes up for not having an actual argument. Patton led men into battle, he didn’t sit on the internet crying about people with different opinions. He fought for American interests, not to be a pawn for defense contractors, billionaires, and intelligence agencies looking for another endless war. If anything, he’d take one look at the modern U.S. military, with its DEI officers and political commissars, and wonder what the hell happened.
And for the tough guy routine, relax. You’re not Patton, not even close. You’re just some guy online throwing a tantrum because somebody challenged your worldview. If calling people “fascist” makes you feel like you’re winning an argument, be my guest. Just don’t pretend you know history when it’s obvious you don’t.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:57 pm to Lima Whiskey
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They’re actually a much younger civilization, their best days haven’t come yet
They don’t have the population for best days ahead of them and would be barely self sufficient in food. They have oil and natural gas resources currently to help sustain themselves. But they are very vulnerable of collapse within a generation of time. Sure their nukes make them “scary”, but Ukraine war proved how comparatively weak and ineffective they truly are on the world stage.
Putin was an idiot. Ukraine was a very poor decision on his part. They got exposed. Bummer…
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:00 pm to rmnldr
Why the worship for Russia? I am a Christian. Why did Putin let a muslim (Kadyrov) beat the frick out of a Christian man for burning a Koran, and then let him imprison him? Russians are alcoholics who beat their women, have low life expectancies, have a massive abortion rate, and a divorce rate to rival las vegas weddings
The US is a historical anomaly. Our origins are in a class of middle class and well off men who tar and feathered tax collectors they viewed as foreigners and had the balls to fight the worlds strongest empire at the time.
The US then went and conquered the West. Developed a continent of land in a matter of decades. No European can claim what the US has done. It took them hundreds of years to establish their empires, which were based on fighting savages. The US beat the frick out of everyone in the industrial age.
MAGA does not mean worshipping Putin. Russia is a shithole. Ukraine is a shithole. Who gives a frick about either of them?
The US is a historical anomaly. Our origins are in a class of middle class and well off men who tar and feathered tax collectors they viewed as foreigners and had the balls to fight the worlds strongest empire at the time.
The US then went and conquered the West. Developed a continent of land in a matter of decades. No European can claim what the US has done. It took them hundreds of years to establish their empires, which were based on fighting savages. The US beat the frick out of everyone in the industrial age.
MAGA does not mean worshipping Putin. Russia is a shithole. Ukraine is a shithole. Who gives a frick about either of them?
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:01 pm to rmnldr
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You claim Putin is “just another Soviet,” which tells me you either don’t understand history or you’re just repeating what you’ve been told. Putin’s rise to power was a direct result of the economic and social collapse that followed U.S. backed policies in the ‘90s.
Unlike you, I have a degree in History. I've studied the Weimar Republic, the rise and fall of the Third Reich, early Soviet history and its domination of Eastern Europe during the time of Stalin. I've studied the famines, the repressions...all of it.
Putin came up in the Soviet system as a KGB man. He may not be an old line Communist, but he does want to recreate the sphere of Soviet influence and control, especially in Ukraine. He was a devastated man after the fall of the Soviet state. Lost. But he found his way as a protector of Sobchak and others as his star gradually rose. He has always, and anyone that's studied him would know this, always wanted to reestablish the old sphere of Soviet power. That's what he's doing in Ukraine, and he's found the perfect tool in Trump to help him achieve things Stalin never dreamed of, not the least of which is the disintegration of the Western alliance.
And guess what? You're part of the destruction of the post WW2 world order that has kept us safe.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:05 pm to GeauxBurrow312
I don’t “worship” Russia. I’m an American patriot, and I love my country. But my allegiance is to Christ first, not to any government, not even my own. And right now, the same forces trying to erase Christianity from the West are the ones backing Ukraine.
This war isn’t about whether Russia is some model of Christian virtue. It’s about globalism versus sovereignty. The people pushing transgenderism in schools, abortion up to birth, mass censorship, and the erosion of national identity are the same ones pouring billions into Ukraine. That’s not a coincidence. Ukraine is a corrupt puppet state being used to advance a godless, globalist agenda—one that openly despises Christianity and everything it stands for.
I don’t claim Russia is perfect. Yes, it has problems, just like America does. But in the grand scheme, it’s standing in the way of a system that wants to erase faith, morality, and national identity from the world. If globalism wins, Christianity will be forced underground everywhere, just like it’s happening in the West right now. That’s why I’d rather see Russia hold the line than let the same people trying to shut down churches and criminalize Christian beliefs gain even more power.
I love my country, but I will not stand with a government that is actively working against Christ. My first allegiance is to God, not to the U.S. government, not to any political movement, and certainly not to the people waging war against the very foundation of Christian civilization.
This war isn’t about whether Russia is some model of Christian virtue. It’s about globalism versus sovereignty. The people pushing transgenderism in schools, abortion up to birth, mass censorship, and the erosion of national identity are the same ones pouring billions into Ukraine. That’s not a coincidence. Ukraine is a corrupt puppet state being used to advance a godless, globalist agenda—one that openly despises Christianity and everything it stands for.
I don’t claim Russia is perfect. Yes, it has problems, just like America does. But in the grand scheme, it’s standing in the way of a system that wants to erase faith, morality, and national identity from the world. If globalism wins, Christianity will be forced underground everywhere, just like it’s happening in the West right now. That’s why I’d rather see Russia hold the line than let the same people trying to shut down churches and criminalize Christian beliefs gain even more power.
I love my country, but I will not stand with a government that is actively working against Christ. My first allegiance is to God, not to the U.S. government, not to any political movement, and certainly not to the people waging war against the very foundation of Christian civilization.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:09 pm to Beau Fontenot
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Beau Fontenot
You’re right about everything you’re saying, but there’s just no point in debating with these Putin idolizers. You gotta remember, most of these people live in a shithole, and were raised and educated in shitholes, and think Twitter is where you find true history. I mean, many of them think Russia is this great Christian nation, that have the best values of any nation in the world. They’re completely brainwashed. Everything they say is nonsense.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:10 pm to rmnldr
Baw I implore you to look up Russia's abortion rate. Its 2x that of Europe, and higher than Ukraines. These guys are no saints.
Putin talks a good game but its not based on metrics. By any reasonable metric (divorce etc), Russia is a highly degenerate society. The only metric they are good on is anti fig. Russia is also more muslim than all of the EU countries importing frickloads of migrants. Arguably the only reason Putin is still in power is his friendship with muslim warlord Kadyrov
The US today is the 3rd Rome. Lets not get dragged into other peoples shite shows
Putin talks a good game but its not based on metrics. By any reasonable metric (divorce etc), Russia is a highly degenerate society. The only metric they are good on is anti fig. Russia is also more muslim than all of the EU countries importing frickloads of migrants. Arguably the only reason Putin is still in power is his friendship with muslim warlord Kadyrov
The US today is the 3rd Rome. Lets not get dragged into other peoples shite shows
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:10 pm to rmnldr
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And for the tough guy routine, relax. You’re not Patton, not even close. You’re just some guy online throwing a tantrum because somebody challenged your worldview. If calling people “fascist” makes you feel like you’re winning an argument, be my guest. Just don’t pretend you know history when it’s obvious you don’t.
Someone has to stand up to you people. You're cozying up and defending a man that delights in hurting people. A man that worships money and power. It's the complete antithesis of the Christianity I'm sure you espouse.
When you promote nationalism at the expense of other people, push human rights aside and promote the existence of false boogeymen under our beds to justify your illegal actions, you might be a fascist. It's not a word I throw around lightly, but I'll use it when it fits.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:11 pm to Beau Fontenot
You love talking about history, so let’s actually talk about it. Nation-states have always built spheres of influence—it’s how geopolitics works and always has. The British Empire did it, Rome did it, the U.S. does it to this day. But somehow when Russia does it, it’s suddenly evil and unacceptable? That’s pure hypocrisy.
The U.S. has military bases in 80+ countries. We’ve overthrown governments, installed puppets, rigged foreign economies, all to serve “American interests.” But when Russia tries to control what happens on it’s own border, that’s where you draw the line? The only difference is when WE do it, it’s “spreading democracy,” when THEY do it, it’s ”imperialism.” It’s the same damn game, different players.
And what exactly does any of this do for the average American? We’re sending billions to Ukraine while our own economy is circling the drain, our borders are wide open, and our government treats its own citizens like threats. This so-called “post-WWII world order” is nothing but an excuse to keep us locked into endless wars while politicians, bankers and defense contractors get rich. If this “order” is so great, why is America weaker than ever? Why is our industry gone? Why are we drowning in debt while foreigners get billions of our tax dollars?
Russia establishing influence in its own backyard isn’t some great evil, it’s what every powerful nation does. The real crime is OUR government using our money to dominate a country that has nothing to do with us while selling our own country out from under us. You say I’m “part of the destruction of the post-WWII world order”? GOOD. Because that “order” has done nothing but serve the same corrupt globalists who are running America into the ground while using people like you to cheer it on.
The U.S. has military bases in 80+ countries. We’ve overthrown governments, installed puppets, rigged foreign economies, all to serve “American interests.” But when Russia tries to control what happens on it’s own border, that’s where you draw the line? The only difference is when WE do it, it’s “spreading democracy,” when THEY do it, it’s ”imperialism.” It’s the same damn game, different players.
And what exactly does any of this do for the average American? We’re sending billions to Ukraine while our own economy is circling the drain, our borders are wide open, and our government treats its own citizens like threats. This so-called “post-WWII world order” is nothing but an excuse to keep us locked into endless wars while politicians, bankers and defense contractors get rich. If this “order” is so great, why is America weaker than ever? Why is our industry gone? Why are we drowning in debt while foreigners get billions of our tax dollars?
Russia establishing influence in its own backyard isn’t some great evil, it’s what every powerful nation does. The real crime is OUR government using our money to dominate a country that has nothing to do with us while selling our own country out from under us. You say I’m “part of the destruction of the post-WWII world order”? GOOD. Because that “order” has done nothing but serve the same corrupt globalists who are running America into the ground while using people like you to cheer it on.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:14 pm to rmnldr
Nah F all of em actually. Let them blow themselves into oblivion while we worry about ourselves and keep making sure we keep America first
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:18 pm to rmnldr
Large parts of this are true and very fair, but be more objective on Russia. Zelensky and Ukraine are asses but Russia sucks as well
I agree with POTUS in saying it is sad that thousands of men are dying every week slugging it out over what is completely bombed out land. They do not cherish life. War crimes on both sides killing innocents.
Russia is not strong enough to slice regional influence - the fact they need Iran, North Korea (both chump states) to support them is proof of that. Their economy is entirely reliant on India purchasing their oil and China propping up their economy.
Where I strongly agree with you, is the best thing to come out of this conflict is the destruction of the post WW2 order. All we did was spend our treasure and blood nation building for what Europeans wanted while they sat on their fat asses building socialist, godless societies
I agree with POTUS in saying it is sad that thousands of men are dying every week slugging it out over what is completely bombed out land. They do not cherish life. War crimes on both sides killing innocents.
Russia is not strong enough to slice regional influence - the fact they need Iran, North Korea (both chump states) to support them is proof of that. Their economy is entirely reliant on India purchasing their oil and China propping up their economy.
Where I strongly agree with you, is the best thing to come out of this conflict is the destruction of the post WW2 order. All we did was spend our treasure and blood nation building for what Europeans wanted while they sat on their fat asses building socialist, godless societies
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:18 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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Baw I implore you to look up Russia's abortion rate. It’s 2x that of Europe, and higher than Ukraines. These guys are no saints.
Putin talks a good game but it’s not based on metrics. By any reasonable metric (divorce etc), Russia is a highly degenerate society. The only metric they are good on is anti fig. Russia is also more muslim than all of the EU countries importing frickloads of migrants. Arguably the only reason Putin is still in power is his friendship with muslim warlord Kadyrov
The US today is the 3rd Rome. Lets not get dragged into other peoples shite shows
I’m not saying Russia is some model Christian nation—it has plenty of problems. But this isn’t about pretending Russia is perfect, it’s about recognizing that, for all its flaws, it’s one of the few major powers resisting the globalist system that’s eroding sovereignty, national identity, and traditional values everywhere. Meanwhile, the West, which claims to stand for ‘freedom and democracy,’ is actively promoting degeneracy, censorship, mass migration, and policies that undermine its own people. I don’t support Russia because I think it’s flawless—I support it in this fight because the alternative is a world completely dominated by the same corrupt forces destroying my own country.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:21 pm to Beau Fontenot
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Someone has to stand up to you people. You're cozying up and defending a man that delights in hurting people. A man that worships money and power. It's the complete antithesis of the Christianity I'm sure you espouse.
When you promote nationalism at the expense of other people, push human rights aside and promote the existence of false boogeymen under our beds to justify your illegal actions, you might be a fascist. It's not a word I throw around lightly, but I'll use it when it fits.
You’re not ‘standing up’ to anyone. You’re just another programmed NPC regurgitating the same tired moral grandstanding that justifies endless war, globalist intervention, and the destruction of national sovereignty—all under the delusion that you’re fighting for ‘human rights.’
You whine about nationalism ‘at the expense of other people’ while conveniently ignoring that the U.S. government has spent decades bombing countries, toppling governments, and starving entire populations through sanctions in the name of ‘democracy.’ The people you’re shilling for don’t care about human rights—they care about power, and they use useful idiots like you to sell their wars.
And let’s be real, your ‘fascist’ accusation is just a lazy attempt to shut down anyone who challenges your worldview. If believing in national sovereignty and resisting globalist control makes someone a ‘fascist’ in your book, then your definition is meaningless. Meanwhile, the people pushing your ideology—censoring speech, crushing dissent, forcing compliance with state narratives—are doing exactly what you claim to oppose.
You’re not a warrior for justice. You’re just another person too blinded by propaganda to realize you’re defending the very system that’s selling out your own country. But hey, keep telling yourself you’re ‘standing up’ to the bad guys while the people you align with strip away your freedoms piece by piece.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:21 pm to sta4ever
Your boy embarrassed all of you today
That was so pathetic
Imagine still being on Team Z
That was so pathetic
Imagine still being on Team Z
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:23 pm to sta4ever
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You’re right about everything you’re saying, but there’s just no point in debating with these Putin idolizers. You gotta remember, most of these people live in a shithole, and were raised and educated in shitholes, and think Twitter is where you find true history. I mean, many of them think Russia is this great Christian nation, that have the best values of any nation in the world. They’re completely brainwashed. Everything they say is nonsense.
The usual cop-out—when you can’t refute an argument, just dismiss the people making it as beneath you. You don’t debate because you can’t. You mock ‘brainwashing’ while parroting the same tired narratives fed to you by the very system that lied about every war for the last 30 years.
You call others ignorant, yet your entire argument is just sneering condescension with zero substance. You don’t engage because deep down, you know you’d lose. So instead, you hide behind arrogance and call it wisdom. It’s pathetic.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:24 pm to rmnldr
"it’s one of the few major powers resisting the globalist system that’s eroding sovereignty, national identity, and traditional values everywhere."
But its not. Putin SAYS this, but Russia does not walk the talk. They are more godless in their actions than just about any country on earth.
"the West, which claims to stand for ‘freedom and democracy,’ is actively promoting degeneracy, censorship, mass migration, and policies that undermine its own people"
100% agree.
I just disagree in that Russia is no friend, savior, or country to look up to. I wouldnt have minded a deal where we buy their resources and have cordial relations. That has passed as an opportunity. Today, the only country where real Christian, Western values can have meaning is the US.
The old world is lost to degeneracy. Obama/Biden tried their best to destroy it, but we are back. Look up the conservative rates amongst the youngest voting generation. There is a lot of reason to believe American exceptionalism is here to last.
But its not. Putin SAYS this, but Russia does not walk the talk. They are more godless in their actions than just about any country on earth.
"the West, which claims to stand for ‘freedom and democracy,’ is actively promoting degeneracy, censorship, mass migration, and policies that undermine its own people"
100% agree.
I just disagree in that Russia is no friend, savior, or country to look up to. I wouldnt have minded a deal where we buy their resources and have cordial relations. That has passed as an opportunity. Today, the only country where real Christian, Western values can have meaning is the US.
The old world is lost to degeneracy. Obama/Biden tried their best to destroy it, but we are back. Look up the conservative rates amongst the youngest voting generation. There is a lot of reason to believe American exceptionalism is here to last.
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