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Fox Mulder
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rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
SOTU is just such a basic speech filled with things that while you may not agree with the unstated policy behind them, they're basic things on which people agree

for instance:
"north korea is bad"

it just seems to me that a smart rebuttal wouldn't be a rebuttal at all, but rather a short speech highlighting common ground on policy (stated or unstated in the SOTU) and just kind of not shitting on a basic speech.

it's hard to respond to such a basic speech with almost entirely agreeable content with a rebuttal. you're basically forced to take a counter position to these things even though it's not in your best interest.

this is why the rebuttal is always incongruent with the preceding speech. It's like a response to a speech that didn't happen.

there are exceptions of course, but more often than not, it just seems like a better idea. I was surprised after listening to Joe Kennedy's rebuttal that when I walked outside I wasn't living in the dystopian future depicted in blade runner


dgnx6
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re: rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
Then don't do a handful of them saying stupid shite.

It's really not that hard.


RickyDonSkaggs
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re: rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
Especially If you have jizz on your lips.


Fox Mulder
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re: rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
yes, I guess he didn't want to have a Rubio moment so he thought lubing up his mouth would prevent him from looking stupid.

how hard is it to talk for 30 minutes without water or lip balm?


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idlewatcher
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re: rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
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Then don't do a handful of them saying stupid shite.


The optics of multiple rebuttals really makes the Dems seem divided. They didn't even have the key guy to give the rebuttal. Only some Ivy League ginger who barely anyone has even heard of.


LosLobos111
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re: rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
I can't wait for Maxine tonight


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Fox Mulder
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re: rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
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The optics of multiple rebuttals really makes the Dems seem divided.
yes, and segregated

they had a black woman give the black rebuttal on BET

it's like she was on the back of the bus and joe kennedy was sitting in the front saying "Black Lives Matter"


idlewatcher
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re: rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
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they had a black woman give the black rebuttal on BET

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another woman giving it in espagnol

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another ginger giving it to white people


Sad! Did they have any Indians give it to the reservation? Kennedy was preaching how "immigrants built this town" only to have all crackers in the audience


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ShortyRob
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re: rebuttals are doomed to fail. they are designed to fail
SOTU rebuttal is certainly a challenge for the reasons mentioned.

Some suggestions though.

Have one of your team look at you on screen as fed by the camera......BEFORE going on(ya know........to avoid jizz lip)

From there, frankly, the hurdle is this.

You have 2 choices. Have prepared remarks(which is doomed likely seem as if you aren't even rebutting the actual speech). Or, go extemporaneous(which runs the risk of looking disjointed and unprepared.

I say the ONLY solution that has a chance of working is extemporaneous and having a person who is VERY light on their speaking feet do it.

Then, instead of your stupid party looking like they're pissed black unemployment is low you can:

Have your party act like it's a positive and then maybe rebut with "As you can imagine, Democrats are also thrilled that black unemployment is at historic lows.........and we just want to emphasize that our policies played an enormous role in getting us there" or something like that...........

A much better plan than just hoping everyone understands that you are just being dicks because you don't like Trump getting any credit for it.

But yeah............SOTU rebuttal isn't for the feint hearted


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