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Reality Check: the ‘Biden Plan’ claims to benefit you, here’s how it would work

Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:53 pm
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6066 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:53 pm
An ad from Joe Biden lines out a few ideas for middle- and lower- income Americans, from tax credits to increased wages and Social Security benefits.
His four points are all backed up by policies on his website, but they aren’t completely in his control. Everything he says he wants would come through legislation, so the outcome of congressional races affects what he could do.

Claim: “Families with young children could get nearly $7,000 for childcare.”

According to his plan on his website, this figure comes from the up to $8,000 tax credit families can get for childcare. The plan gives up to 50% reimbursement for the cost of childcare for families making less than $125,000 a year, with a cap of $8,000 back for one child and $16,000 back for two or more. If your household makes between $125,000 and $400,000, his site says you’d be eligible for a partial credit.

Claim: “Buying your first home – you’ll get $15,000 toward the down payment.”

The plan mimics a temporary tax credit that was part of the recovery from the great recession – except this would be allowed to be paid in advance, and it would be permanent. In the recovery credit, first-time homebuyers could apply for a credit of 10% of the purchase price of a home. A spokesperson for the Biden campaign did not clarify if the credit would work the same this time around.

Claim: “If you get paid by the hour, your income could grow by as much as $14,000.”

This only applies if you make less than $15 an hour, to which Biden wants to raise the minimum wage. His team measured the difference between $15 and $7.25, times that by working 40 hours a week 50 weeks out of the year, and that’s $15,500 gross more.


Claim: “Older seniors, your yearly Social Security benefits could increase by $1,300.”

This one comes from his policy idea to pay those who have collected Social Security for 20 or more years a higher monthly check. According to a policy analyst who previously worked in the Social Security Administration, Biden would also use a different index specific to the elderly for cost of living adjustments. Those two changes combined would give slight bumps to monthly checks for social security, on average about $110 a month or just over $1,300 a year.

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Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3329 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:57 pm to
I don’t know how we pay for this.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:58 pm to
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I don’t know how we pay for this.


Same way we paid for the tax cuts..
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:59 pm to
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I don’t know how we pay for this.


They will use fairy dust
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48917 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:00 pm to
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Claim: “Older seniors, your yearly Social Security benefits could increase by $1,300.”


That's rich considering he led the vanguard to tax social security, i doubt he remembers
Posted by MsHoghunter
Member since Oct 2017
2405 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:01 pm to
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Same way we paid for the tax cuts


Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3329 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:03 pm to
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Same way we paid for the tax cuts.


At least the tax cuts stimulated the economy which helped pay for them. $15 minimum wage will hurt some businesses resulting raising prices.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13127 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:06 pm to
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Same way we paid for the tax cuts..


Treasury intake by year-
2012- 2.45 trillion
2013- 2.77 trillion
2014- 3.04 trillion
2015- 3.25 trillion
2016- 3.27 trillion
2017 - 3.32 trillion
2018- 3.33 trillion
2019- 3.46 trillion
2020- 3.71 trillion

The tax cuts boosted the economy and brought businesses to the US inceasing tax revenue as jobs grew. Further tax cuts will do the same. Biden’s green new deal bullshite will bankrupt the country
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:08 pm
Posted by OldTigahFot
Drinkin' with the rocket scientists
Member since Jan 2012
10502 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:07 pm to
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Same way we paid for the tax cuts..


We don't "pay" for tax cuts. It is our money
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3079 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:07 pm to
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This one comes from his policy idea to pay those who have collected Social Security for 20 or more years a higher monthly check.


This is a safe promise for him because how many recipients actually live beyond 85-92 years old — figuring people retire between age 65-72.
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
6719 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:08 pm to
As a lawyer, I see three “coulds” and one outright lie. None of the four have a reasonable financial plan to back the claims. Seems like the standard democratic platform to me. Rainbows, butterflies and sunny days. I’ll never understand somebody who thinks that they can get something for free.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:26 pm to
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Claim: “If you get paid by the hour, your income could grow by as much as $14,000.”

This only applies if you make less than $15 an hour, to which Biden wants to raise the minimum wage. His team measured the difference between $15 and $7.25, times that by working 40 hours a week 50 weeks out of the year, and that’s $15,500 gross more.

I love how they assume we are all too stupid to realize that doubling all minimum hourly employee pay would result in mass firings, reduced hours and absolutely zero overtime
Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:30 pm to
So socialism?
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