re: Rand Paul on CBS This Morning

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With McCain, we would be in 7-8 different wars right now. Obama was definitely the lesser evil on this issue.

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agreed. mccain would have been a shite show. and if romney won, he might have skipped the "economic warfare" and we might be in "warfare warfare" with russia right now. i hate to say it but maybe it's a good thing we have a president with no balls because our shite list is long enough without having to worry about the dirty russians..

Rand Paul 2016

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I'm done with the "forever" war on terror. I'm for a cold war approach. Contain and react as last result and do so with furious and swift action. Our energy is not dependent on the ME any more. Draw a big circle around that cesspool and stay out and keep in.

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We're just playing whackamole at this point. We've been in the region for 13 years now, and our humint didn't (or couldn't convince leadership) see a 30k man strong force being built up

We're just bouncing around the region (ME/N. Africa) using an old AUMF striking at whoever becomes the biggest bogeyman.

We need a complete overhaul of how we deal with radical islam at this point. I have to think everyone can see this most recent ISIS strategy is going to be another boondoggle once those arms end up in not so friendly hands or the groups we arm turn on us.

It's always the media's fault. Or someone's fault other than their own. They refuse to to responsibility for doing poorly.

NEVER have they taken responsibility for running a bad race it's always the media's fault.

Romney's "47%" comment was no more the media's fault than Obama's "bitter clinger" comment. It's what they really believe and I think it's fair game.

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bullshite. There never has been an interview, whether it be Paul or Palin or Bush or Jindal, when someone hasn't jumped on "the media". It's what Republicans do.

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as if liberals don't dismiss fox news just the same

Note: i do not watch FNC and i loathe being somewhere where it is on

Dismissing one cable news channel and dismissing every other outlet is a bit different.

Conservatives, you included, just can't wrap their heads around the fact that people don't think like they do. So they create these fictions, these strawmen, to account for this.

You do it all the time. Your squawking about how others are "single issue voters" or your threads of how liberals think and you know because you were once a liberal.

You just can't understand how reasonable minds can think differently. So you go about trashing either the media for misrepresenting or your opponents cheating or the voters being stupid. But NEVER that you just lost because the other side either had better ideas or had better ways of presenting their ideas.

You're like Arkansas fans always blaming the refs. It's never you. It's always someone else's fault.

And this is every issue. Whether it be global warming or racism or anything. It's the media favoring one side. It's never that you just lost the debate or you may be wrong.

You never ever own your loss. You're incapable of doing so. It's not in your DNA.

VB doing some projecting.

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Dismissing one cable news channel and dismissing every other outlet is a bit different.

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not when they represent different ends of the spectrum. there is a reason FNC is so high in the ratings: it's the only major tv outlet

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Conservatives, you included, just can't wrap their heads around the fact that people don't think like they do.

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yeah the former super liberal SFP doesn't understand that people don't think like i do (now)

great point

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Your squawking about how others are "single issue voters" or your threads of how liberals think and you know because you were once a liberal.

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which are wrong, exactly?

those are also comparisons in the voting blocs. i also rail on conservative voters for not showing up unless they have the "perfect" candidate. that was a major issue with romney (and possibly will be with paul). that's why so many candidates cater to the insane religious right demo of the GOP.

i criticize both sides for their irrational voting patterns

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You just can't understand how reasonable minds can think differently.

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sure i do

i can also understand how people think irrationally, emotionally, or just downright incorrectly

this is similar to the "empathy" argument people try to get in with me. i fully understand the "why" in terms of people making decisions. that doesn't mean that i just absolutely accept the "why".

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. So you go about trashing either the media for misrepresenting or your opponents cheating or the voters being stupid. But NEVER that you just lost because the other side either had better ideas or had better ways of presenting their ideas.

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this is patently false. i routinely acknowledge how the DEMs out politic the GOP by lying and pandering better

voting blocs/coalitions have a lot to do with it, also. it makes it easier for the DEMs due to their demos (i went into it in this post)

that's political science, not opinion

i don't agree with either. the fact that these motherfrickers have so much (money/power) to pander with is the sign that something is wrong

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It's the media favoring one side.

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but the media will favor one side, especially with how rhetorical "the media" has become

not only are outlets pandering to certain demos, but hosts within the outlets pander to even more specific demos

this isn't a liberal/conservative thing. it happens on both sides. one side just is more ingrained in old media

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You never ever own your loss

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i voted for a presidential candidate that got 1% of the vote last election. i fully understood what i was doing and the irrationality of the other 99% of people voting. that's called "owning" a loss

who did you vote for? the candidate who was publicly opposed to gay marriage in 2008? i thought so