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re: People voted "against Trump"...Prove it

Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:27 pm to
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He’s one of the “but Trump won bellweather counties!1!1!1” people
Quote where I said that

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I’m still waiting for him to prove that each and every one of Trump’s 75 million votes were valid
Where are the independent investigations showing that Trump had thousands and thousands of illegitimate mail in ballots? You probably can't find them because a great percentage of his votes were cast in person on election day and almost completely counted within a few hours.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:27 pm to
Someone speaking with authority as you've attempted to do here ought to be able to find those data.
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:28 pm to
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but “crowd size” does
Yep! Along with a vast number of in person ballots cast on election day and counted mostly within 24 hours. Biden???
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:32 pm to
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And ski boat parades
So PB pariah Hank FINALLY chimes in and this is what we get. Typical.

This thread is amazing. The lengths these people will go to in not answering a question.

You people need medication

People voted against Trump people

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:37 pm to
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Where are the independent investigations showing that Trump had thousands and thousands of illegitimate mail in ballots?

Don’t care. I don’t believe that any of Trump’s votes were valid. Not a single one. Prove that they were.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Along with a vast number of in person ballots cast on election day and counted mostly within 24 hours

None of those things are proof of, or even suggest, anything other than how many ballots were counted on Election Day.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:42 pm to
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Yep! Along with a vast number of in person ballots cast on election day and counted mostly within 24 hours. Biden???

Why do you have such a hard on for in person ballots cast on election day? What's glamorous about standing in a long arse line?
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:43 pm to
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What's glamorous about standing in a long arse line?

Do all of you people live in GA and CA?

I’ve never waited in a line to vote in my life.
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:43 pm to
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Pretending like you are actually even seeking evidence is such a stupid look for you.
Part of the fun is exploring just how hard the halfwits will work to not answer the question with anything substantive. It's interesting to see how hard they will work to not admit they need medication and counseling.

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Just say “you can’t prove it” and move on if you disagree.
Ok, thanks boss.

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“Did you vote for Biden in 2020 because you don’t like Donald Trump” isn’t a fricking Census question
Oh but buckeye assured us that they say precisely that. Maybe you people need to have a zoom call to get your stories straight.

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Those things indicate that Donald Trump lost ground in several demographics in 2020.
Maybe to dimwitted people who actually think they mean something

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Pointing out totally meaningless statistics makes you no better than the retards on the left who trot out national popular vote statistics.
Meaningless? It absolutely disproves the idea that "people hated Trump."

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There’s no such thing as the “Election Day vote”. It’s a fiction. There’s just votes.
Not in 2020 friend. That fact is still being debated today. Many people want all the votes to be counted on election day primarily because Biden got so many after election day which looks a whole lot like cheating.

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Every possible metric—exit polling, election results, and Trump’s underperforming Republicans at all levels nationwide disagrees with this statement.
Wow you are still referring to polls. It's amazing. The brute fact that Trump got more votes than any previous candidate absolutely blows your assertion out of the water.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:47 pm to
I don't get it. It's like waiting until the last day to do your taxes.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:49 pm to
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Maybe to dimwitted people who actually think they mean something

So if contemporaneous sampling from people who had just voted isn’t authoritative, what is?
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Meaningless? It absolutely disproves the idea that "people hated Trump."

No. It in no way does that. That Donald Trump increased his vote total from 2016 in no way whatsoever means, implies, or suggests that more people didn’t vote against him. It simply doesn’t. There were more total votes. No fricking shite the numbers went up for both parties

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Not in 2020 friend. That fact is still being debated today. Many people want all the votes to be counted on election day primarily because Biden got so many after election day which looks a whole lot like cheating.

You’re simply objectively wrong. There is no distinction whatsoever between votes cast early, etc and “Election day votes”. None at all. The only thing such metrics show is the behavioral preferences of the types of people who gravitate towards the respective parties.
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Wow you are still referring to polls. It's amazing.

Pretending like you believe exit polling data is the same thing as political polling is a really stupid look. No one believes you.

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The brute fact that Trump got more votes than any previous candidate absolutely blows your assertion out of the water.

Quite the opposite. Seems like the most normal thing possible given what we knew going into 2020–which is that turnout was going to be high. The only thing about vote totals in 2020 that would have “blown me out of the water” would have been the totals NOT setting records.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 5:50 pm
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:50 pm to
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Don’t care. I don’t believe that any of Trump’s votes were valid. Not a single one. Prove that they were.
Defending something by attacking something else. That probably works on kids.

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None of those things are proof of, or even suggest, anything other than how many ballots were counted on Election Day.
The number of in person ballots counted mostly on election day absolutely shows the contrast with the problematic Biden mail-in votes. But I get that you wouldn't be capable of acknowledging that.

These people are venturing into absurd territory now.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9783 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:50 pm to
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Lay it out for us.


Dems voted against Trump. Because they hate him more than republicans hate Hillary. The dems would’ve given their support to anyone running against Trump. It was never about Biden.

Ta da. Magic.

There’s no reason to go any further. You lose. Next question please.

If you want a more in depth answer ask a better question.

…and try to be serious. Or just troll. I don’t care either way. This is more pathetic than anything else. Your family has my sympathies.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:51 pm to
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Defending something by attacking something else. That probably works on kids.

Wrong. Make your case.

Donald Trump did not receive a single valid vote in 2020.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:55 pm to
Was there fraud in 2020? Yes

Did States illegally ignore their own laws with regard to voting in 2020? Yes.

Did the mail-in ballot bullshite from the covid pandemic cost Trump the election? Almost certainly.

Will vote totals, number of Election Day votes, “bellweather” counties, number of total counties, who won OH/FL/IA, crowd size, who won how many counties, etc., ever be evidence of 2020 election fraud? Unequivocally no.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 5:57 pm
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:59 pm to
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I've already addressed this. People say that the 81mil happened because of anti-Trump sentiments. Yet Trump got more votes than any previous candidate, largely in-person, election day ballots

You're omitting half the equation. The pot of voters was significantly larger in the 2020 election.

If you retake a test that recently added ten additional questions, and when scored, you discover that you answered correctly two additional questions than you did on your first try -- do you flex in the mirror?
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:01 pm to
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Did the mail-in ballot bull shite from the covid pandemic cost Trump the election? Almost certainly.

Why is a mail-in ballot considered bull shite?
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:02 pm to
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So if contemporaneous sampling from people who had just voted isn’t authoritative, what is?
Wow. STILL arguing for polls. It's amazing. So you personally interviewed every person who voted, cataloged the ones who said their vote was anti-Trump and you trust they told you the truth? Otherwise, what in the world are you talking about? The polling process is not transparent. Why do you trust pollsters? And where is the list of all exit polls that says people voted against Trump?

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That Donald Trump increased his vote total from 2016 in no way whatsoever means, implies, or suggests that more people didn’t vote against him
It shows the contrast with Biden's mail in, phantom anti-Trump votes. It absolutely demonstrates the point that has been made from the beginning.

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There were more total votes
Debateable. Check the recent AZ ruling on signature matching. And BTW, who told you there were "more votes?"

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You’re simply objectively wrong
Says the person who thinks polls somehow prove that there was an anti-Trump movement that constituted some non-trivial percentage of 81mil votes. So what percentage of 81 mil was anti-Trump?

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There is no distinction whatsoever between votes cast early, etc and “Election day votes”.
I never said anything about votes cast "early." I am referring to Trump's votes being counted mostly within a few hours (litle time for fraud) and Biden's votes largely after hours (all the time needed for fraud).

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Pretending like you believe exit polling data is the same thing as political polling is a really stupid look
Where is the list of all exit polls showing the anti-Trump vote?

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No one believes you
There have been people ITT who are not on your side so, you are wrong
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:03 pm to
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Why is a mail-in ballot considered bull shite?

Mail-in voting is not categorically bullshite. States like CO do all mail-in. No fundamental issue there because those systems have been put in place deliberately over years and are equipped to handle it.

But—-The way certain states exploited the covid situation to massively increase mail-in voting without the established infrastructure required to do it securely and properly is what is bullshite.
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:04 pm to
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Dems voted against Trump
Wow. Missing the entire point of the thread. Good job.

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The dems would’ve given their support to anyone running against Trump
What percentage of the 81 mil was anti-Trump vote?
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