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Parents of transgender youth are suing to block Georgia's gender-affirming care ban

Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:37 am
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:37 am
Parents of transgender youth are suing to block Georgia's gender-affirming care ban



ATLANTA (AP) — Parents of four transgender children have filed a lawsuit challenging a Georgia law set to take effect Saturday that bans most gender-affirming surgeries and hormone replacement therapies for transgender people under 18.

The lawsuit, which was filed Thursday night, asks a judge to immediately prevent enforcement of the law while the legal challenge plays out.

The law passed along party lines this year by the Republican-majority General Assembly and signed by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp was hotly contested, with Democrats, parents and medical providers making impassioned arguments against it. Georgia is one of at least 20 states that have enacted laws that restrict or ban gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors, with most currently facing lawsuits.

The Georgia law, Senate Bill 140, does allow doctors to prescribe puberty-blocking medications, and it allows minors who are already receiving hormone therapy to continue.

Supporters argue the law will prevent children from making decisions they could later regret.

But opponents say it will have devastating effects on young people, who are making decisions under parental and medical supervision. They argue the law further marginalizes people who are already prone to taking their own lives at disturbingly high rates.

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child abuse. plain and simple.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:40 am to
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prevent children from making decisions they could later regret.


Prevents parents from making decisions the children will regret later...

This is child abuse and those kids should be taken from the parents... not a big fan of kids in the system but these parents are nuts...
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:41 am to
So we are still pretending that there is a such thing as transgender although it has never happened in a human being ever.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:42 am to
If this was truly about the child they would go to one of the crazy states that allow it.

They (clearly) don’t give a shite about the child, they just want the state of Georgia to bow down to the crazies.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:43 am to
I would argue we should allow children and parents to assent to “gender-affirming care” with the caveat that once the children become adults, should they become unhappy with their childhood decisions, they are then legally allowed to cut off the genitalia of their parents.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:45 am to
This isn't critical medical care.

We aren't talking about the need for a court ruling to continue or cease life support, for example.

Can the parents of these emotionally unstable children not wait a few years until the child reaches adulthood to permanently disfigure their kids?
Posted by RJL2
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:46 am to
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child abuse. plain and simple.


So you’d rather have the government make parenting decisions than a parent?? Weird how now you’re ok with the government telling people what to do.

Per the national library of medicine around 1% of people who receive gender affirming care regret the decision at some point. Does that mean they shouldn’t get it?

17% of people regret knee surgery

35% of people regret breast augmentation

Should we outlaw those surgeries as well?

Not to mention, it’s extremely rare that a minor gets reassignment surgery, over 99% is hormonal treatment/puberty blockers which are easily reversible.

These are children looking for help to feel themselves, not a political object. Grow the frick up.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:48 am to
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So you’d rather have the government make parenting decisions than a parent??


Can they get a tattoo in GA under 18?
Posted by RJL2
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:49 am to
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Can they get a tattoo in GA under 18?


With a parents consent, yes.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:49 am to
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So you’d rather have the government make parenting decisions than a parent?? Weird how now you’re ok with the government telling people what to do.


I assume you are consistent and are an equally vociferous advocate for female genital mutilation.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:50 am to
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Per the national library of medicine around 1% of people who receive gender affirming care regret the decision at some point. Does that mean they shouldn’t get it?


Bullllllllll-sheeeee-iiiiiitttttt
Posted by RJL2
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:51 am to
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I assume you are consistent and are an equally vociferous advocate for female genital mutilation.


You are clearly confused about the meaning of consent. Must be a big trump guy.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:52 am to
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You are clearly confused about the meaning of consent.


I think you are. Let me know what the meaning of consent is with regards to an 9-year-old female.
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Posted by Big Gorilla
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:53 am to
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over 99% is hormonal treatment/puberty blockers which are easily reversible.


I have read medical journals that say this simply isn’t true. We don’t know if the hormones are reversible. That’s the problem. They just recently started giving them out like candy to children.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:53 am to
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With a parents consent, yes.


You need to check again skippy, they certainly cannot.

The minimum age requirement in the state of Georgia is 18 years old. This means that no one under this age can get a tattoo, regardless of parental consent. There are a few states that will allow tattoos for minors if they have parental permission, but Georgia is not one of them.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 11:55 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:55 am to
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I have read medical journals that say this simply isn’t true. We don’t know if the hormones are reversible. That’s the problem. They just recently started giving them out like candy to children.


We do know that pre-adolescent males who get started on puberty blockers will almost certainly not achieve orgasm as an adult. I think that’s a pretty clear evidence that it’s not “reversible” in any meaningful sense.
Posted by RJL2
Bruno's Tavern
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:55 am to
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I think you are. Let me know what the meaning of consent is with regards to an 9-year-old female.


This is alarmist bull shite. The only instances where surgical gender affirming care is provided to people under 16 is in the case of hermaphroditism.
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
2595 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:02 pm to
if powerful drugs, hormones, and surgery are necessary for you to be "yourself" then you have much larger mental issues that aren't being addressed
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:19 pm to
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hormonal treatment/puberty blockers which are easily reversible.

No they are not. They are puberty destroyers not blockers.
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