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re: Owen Shroyer is out of prison. Served 47 of 60 days for standing around on J6.

Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:31 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:31 am to
Your argument boils down to sucking Fed dick. Which is pretty awesome coming from you. Dance around it however you’d like.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:32 am to
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oh that makes sense now…

They're hard-wired to argue dishonestly and emotionally, these days.

It's part of the brain rot I keep trying to combat with simple factual responses (which anger them because I don't drop to their emotional level and sky scream editorialization that they demand, so they impute it like the NPCs they are).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:34 am to
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Your argument

Argument?

What argument?

quote:

Dance around it however you’d like.

Understanding the difference in factual recitation and making an argument is the first step on your journey back to reality.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120780 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:34 am to
There’s the lawyer shite. Love it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:35 am to
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There’s the lawyer shite. Love it.

What lawyer shite?

Do you honestly not understand the difference in stating facts and making an argument?

Maybe I overrated your mental ability all of these years.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283518 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:36 am to
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There’s the lawyer shite. Love it.


Of course.

Hank does the same shite, purposeful obfuscation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283518 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:36 am to
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Your argument boils down to sucking Fed dick. Which is pretty awesome coming from you.


Indeed.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:37 am to
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They're hard-wired to argue dishonestly and emotionally, these days.
The fact that user got 41 upvotes and no downvotes for dishonesty quoting an article that states the opposite of his position says all you need to know about the mentality of some users here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:38 am to
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purposeful obfuscation.


What am I obfuscating by clarifying the facts/reality?


HERE is some lawyer shite:

Do you agree that stating intentional misinformation is obfuscation?

Do you agree that misattributing factual statements as rhetoric is obfuscation?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120780 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:39 am to
You’re trying to turn this into a tar baby.

You’re implicitly agreeing that the FedGov keeping Shroyer from being on Capitol grounds (as a part of an agreement resulting from him protesting a government proceeding) is just.

I am in disagreement.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:39 am to
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The fact that user got 41 upvotes and no downvotes for dishonesty quoting an article that states the opposite of his position says all you need to know about the mentality of some users here.

Also the classic MAGA "body bagged" style responses

The literal embodiment of this meme:



Celebrating their projected ignorance and lack of intelligence
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:40 am to
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purposeful obfuscation
He’s simply quoting & citing articles from the AP and you think that is somehow purposefully difficult to understand?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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452735 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:41 am to
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You’re implicitly agreeing

No I'm not.

quote:

that the FedGov keeping Shroyer from being on Capitol grounds (as a part of an agreement resulting from him protesting a government proceeding) is just.

I never said anything about being "just" or any other editorial on the situation.

I just clarifying the intentional misinformation of OP (and responses to OP) with facts.

quote:

I am in disagreement.

Feel free to disagree with your own straw man, if it makes you feel better.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120780 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:43 am to
Sure, pal.

I will agree that the added context you provided is important. It provides clarity to the sweeping power of the government and the dangers of challenging it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283518 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:43 am to
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purposeful obfuscation
He’s simply quoting & citing articles from the AP


Which skirt the discussion.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283518 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:45 am to
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“Illegally entered a restricted area” was the charge.


A carjacking might have led to less jail time.

The FedGov has been hijacked by radicals (Patriot Act plus Obama) and until we get a president with guts to fix it, nothing is going to change.

Trump had 4 years and didnt do shite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:46 am to
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Which skirt the discussion.

The discussion of misinformation being posted? How?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120780 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:51 am to
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A carjacking might have led to less jail time.


In Chicago, it’s almost a coin flip if they even prosecute you for carjacking. Coincidentally enough for our discussion, they prefer to charge the carjackers with trespassing.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:52 am to
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Which skirt the discussion.
So someone dishonestly quotes an article that states the opposite of their position, and you think the user point that out is the one purposefully obfuscating the argument?

K.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:53 am to
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So someone dishonestly quotes an article that states the opposite of their position, and you think the user point that out is the one purposefully obfuscating the argument?


You forgot to add: "and pointing out that dishonesty without editorial comment will have editorial comments imputed upon it"
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