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re: Owen Shroyer is out of prison. Served 47 of 60 days for standing around on J6.

Posted on 12/8/23 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 7:55 pm to
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Look who’s here to take the other side.

You mean reality?
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 7:57 pm to
If a J6’er sought you out for defense, would you defend them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:02 pm to
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If a J6’er sought you out for defense, would you defend them

Sure.

I would call them a fricking idiot, but I do that with a lot of my clients. Effectively did that today with one b/c she lied to me and that created a path that ruined her case (non-criminal matter).
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:03 pm to
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spreading baseless claims of election fraud


Not so fast fats


They need to keep up.

It's not enough to change the results.
This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:05 pm to
It was a genuine question. I know you catch a lot of shite, so I was curious.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:07 pm to
One more and I will leave you alone - how do you set aside any biases you may have to defend someone? That’s not a bait question.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:08 pm to
True story, I probably would have had I not convinced someone in my office building not to go. The week before they were like "hey are you going to DC next week?" And I was just like and convinced them not to go. Afterward they were extremely thankful I talked to them about it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:12 pm to
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how do you set aside any biases you may have to defend someone? That’s not a bait question.


My biases are more towards the facts/evidence at hand than the person.

A literal racist Nazi and/or Communist are still correct if they answer 4 to "what is 2+2?". I don't judge the responder when all I wanted was their answer to a factual question.

Now, if their status leads to a credibility issue, then that's kind of like having bad facts/evidence organically and I do judge that.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:14 pm to
Appreciate the feedback. Very interesting profession.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:16 pm to
There are a lot of lawyers who aren't as concerned about the facts but they often are just stealing client's money IMHO. You have to set reality and expectations from the outset for client control.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:18 pm to
A lawyer can almost act as a psychologist these days. I think it would be a hard line to teeter across.
Posted by yakster
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:39 pm to
Whose reality? Kind of like having your own truth. Or what you perceive to be the truth
Posted by why_so_salty
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:49 pm to
Can you be more of a basic bitch?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:49 pm to
I relied on facts with cites

Try reading
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 12:20 am to
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What "take" is there when I just recited actual, verifiable facts?


Your takes are all justifications for the suppression of political dissent by the DOJ.

On those rare occasions when you’re actually aware enough to notice the issue, you mumble something about “I’ve been railing against Federal criminal overreach for years so frick the little guy who’s just finding out about it now” or something approximating that.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 12:22 am to
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Can you be more of a basic bitch?


He can and he will be. Hang around. He’ll be on the other side within 5 years.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:35 am to
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Your takes are all justifications f


LINK?

I know the smooth brains on this board can't tell the difference in correcting facts and giving editorials on those facts, but I didn't think you'd fallen into that trap.

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“I’ve been railing against Federal criminal overreach for years so frick the little guy who’s just finding out about it now

No . The bold is more like, "the hypocrites who still opine for the police state"

Lots of idiots who were part of the riot on J6 got somewhat railroaded, but people who did what Shroyer did, without the prior orders, didn't go to jail. The only reason he did was because of an agreement he made previously with the feds to avoid prosecution.

I don't support riots, be it J6 or the summer of love in 2020.

I also don't support intentional obfuscation of basic facts to amplify the echo chamber. The thing is, I can deal with that without giving my own opinions. The problem is, and I'm sad you seem to be part of this group, too many people take correcting lies with the truth as some sort of personal opinion on the matter. You need to work on that.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 7:54 am to
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The only reason he did was because of an agreement he made previously with the feds to avoid prosecution.


The only reason he had to make that agreement was because he interrupted the impeachment proceedings of the House Judiciary. And we’re back to where we started. You’re a simp for government overreach these days.
Posted by TigerIn2023
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:08 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:30 am to
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The only reason he had to make that agreement was because he interrupted the impeachment proceedings of the House Judiciary. And we’re back to where we started

Well yeah we start at his prior criminal issues and his voluntary agreement. That was my point originally.

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You’re a simp for government overreach these days.

I never gave editorial comment or injected any subjective belief, ITT*







*Other than brief commentary in my initial response to you, which you apparently ignored intentionally.
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