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re: Only empires are indivisible.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:08 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:08 pm to crazy4lsu
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You might personally find some meaning in a particular version of history that was taught to you, but that doesn't mean it is the definitive true version.
The irony in this statement is mind-boggling, considering the entire social justice movement you're defending is based on it.
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:12 pm to SCLibertarian
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Where did I limit this to Confederates?
This is an impressive retreat
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:13 pm to SCLibertarian
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The irony in this statement is mind-boggling, considering the entire social justice movement you're defending is based on it.
No, just that you are on the opposite side of the same coin. I'm not so moved by history to claim that it represents a culture, as the 'past is a foreign country' for most. It isn't like either side actually wants to learn from the history. You want what you believe repeated back to you by the culture at large, and will get very angry on the internet when that doesn't happen. Why one particular version of events is exalted as the definitive history, and thus any different version of events is seen as an attack, should give you some pause as to what exactly you want. Maybe it won't, I don't know.
Cultures have never been immutable either. Cultures that are heavily dependent on technology change very quickly. The truth is that you either have to adapt or see your ideas die out.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:15 pm to thejuiceisloose
No it isn't. I never once limited the discussion of statue removal to Confederates. My original response to Goblin Guide was about cultural authoritarianism, which seeks to destroy far more than Confederate names and relics.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:18 pm to crazy4lsu
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just that you are on the opposite side of the same coin
Except I don't support the removal of statues of people whose political views or personal habits I find abhorrent. That's the difference between someone like me and some social justice warrior.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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You believe that version wholeheartedly too.
I believe in the right to put it out there.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:28 pm to SCLibertarian
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Except I don't support the removal of statues of people whose political views or personal habits I find abhorrent. That's the difference between someone like me and some social justice warrior.
Should statues remain forever? Are they some immutable cultural artifact that must stand the test of time or something? The fact that there were Confederate memorials in places that had nothing to do with the Confederacy suggests that your preference was for one particular narrative, and nothing you've said suggests you objected to Lost Causers putting up monuments to Confederate veterans in Seattle and a fricking Stonewall Jackson Monument in San Diego.
To be clear, it seems you are okay once a statue is put up, in random places, regardless of the history of that place, but calls and actions to tear those down are obviously beyond the pale.
Again, where are the statues of the Southern Unionists in Tennessee?
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:28 pm to TrueTiger
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I believe in the right to put it out there.
And I believe in the right to call you an inbred, ill-read moron.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:29 pm to crazy4lsu
You misspelled "god" there I fixed it for you. Indeed, a devil has sent you. No elect child of God being taught by the Spirit would dare to deny the predestination of all things.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:30 pm to Tigereye78
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You misspelled "god" there I fixed it for you. Indeed, a devil has sent you. No elect child of God being taught by the Spirit would dare to deny the predestination of all things.
Nah, I'm sent by baby Buddha to correct you and turn you from the evil in your own heart. God's not happy with you my man.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:30 pm to crazy4lsu
Spoken like a true Union loyalist.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:30 pm to Tigereye78
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Spoken like a true Union loyalist.
Hell yeah. Being at the center of the empire is far better than being at the periphery.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:32 pm to AggieHank86
Hey, I think I found the Country ruler
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:37 pm to crazy4lsu
I grew up in the deep south and the lost cause is indeed deep among those who worship from the crimson throat bible.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:39 pm to crazy4lsu
Indeed, the question asked by Job
Job 25:4-6: "How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman? Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight. How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?"
Find the answer and you have learned the gospel.
God is only pleased with his dear Son and all whom are in Christ that he made atonement for. There is nothing good about me at all and being a receiptiant of grace I know that. Christ accomplished justification for me and I have received that justification through faith which was God's gift to me through faith by his Spirit.
Rom 3:23-24: "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:"
Job 25:4-6: "How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman? Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight. How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?"
Find the answer and you have learned the gospel.
God is only pleased with his dear Son and all whom are in Christ that he made atonement for. There is nothing good about me at all and being a receiptiant of grace I know that. Christ accomplished justification for me and I have received that justification through faith which was God's gift to me through faith by his Spirit.
Rom 3:23-24: "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:"
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:41 pm to TGFN57
They have a magic formula too. Put up a statue anywhere and bam, you create history! Obviously statues are never torn down anywhere, and of course it is not okay to suggest that once a statue is put up, it cannot be taken down, or else you run the risk of not understanding history! It's a foolproof argument.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:42 pm to Tigereye78
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There is nothing good about me at all and being a receiptiant of grace I know that. Christ accomplished justification for me and I have received that justification through faith which was God's gift to me through faith by his Spirit.
JC isn't happy with you for supporting slavery and also being a moron. He told me.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:46 pm to crazy4lsu
You should read that article I linked. Very interesting.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:48 pm to Tigereye78
Nah.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:49 pm to crazy4lsu
Do you think that Blacks would have been better of being left in Africa and not being brought to this continent through the slave trade?
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