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One Simple Question Regarding Mandatory Vaxes...
Posted on 10/15/21 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 10/15/21 at 3:59 pm
After 20 months into this pandemic, why is there no traditional protein based option? Why is there not one peep from anyone (governors, media, public health officials, doctors, hospitals, etc) just inquiring into this very simple question. Hell, even OAN or Fox won't touch this extremely simple question.
This seems to be the real elephant in the room that not one single person wants to bring into the mainstream media and headlines so that all sides can have an informative discussion.
Honestly, I would take the damn thing if you told me that a traditional protein based vaccine was available just like H1N1 was egg based, seasonal flu etc.
And for the 1-shot JnJ crowd, that crap is not protein based. It's maddening that employers are being weaponized against good people with no traditional alternative that has decades of efficacy on its side.
This seems to be the real elephant in the room that not one single person wants to bring into the mainstream media and headlines so that all sides can have an informative discussion.
Honestly, I would take the damn thing if you told me that a traditional protein based vaccine was available just like H1N1 was egg based, seasonal flu etc.
And for the 1-shot JnJ crowd, that crap is not protein based. It's maddening that employers are being weaponized against good people with no traditional alternative that has decades of efficacy on its side.
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Posted on 10/15/21 at 4:00 pm to Tomatocantender
Sir, pullover. You’ve had too much to think.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 4:05 pm to Tomatocantender
The Chinese vaccine is a traditionally based vaccine with an attenuated COVID virus.
But our western overloads say it does not work.
But our western overloads say it does not work.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 4:06 pm to Tomatocantender
They're blocking it, the MRNA is a depopulation method.
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 10/15/21 at 4:09 pm to Tomatocantender
What’s wrong with the JnJ?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 4:14 pm to C
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What’s wrong with the JnJ?
Not traditional protein based. Genetic instruction override to build the spike protein. In other words, it's playing God just like those other 2 mRNA Jesus Juice options.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 4:18 pm to Strannix
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They're blocking it, the MRNA is a depopulation method.
Bingo.
For anyone that doesn't want to buy into the depopulation theory, it's at a minimum the Gates'/Faucis of the worlds new toy & nothing is getting in their way of making it the future & banking billions annually from it.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 5:52 pm to Tomatocantender
There is one, Novavax, that is delayed to manufacturing problems. May get EUA end of year or early next year.
Nebraska Medicine link
The Novavax COVID-19 vaccine contains a protein (made using moth cells) plus an adjuvant (made from tree bark). An adjuvant is an ingredient added to boost a person's immune response, creating higher levels of antibodies.
The Novavax vaccine uses a telltale piece of the coronavirus: the notorious spike protein. All alone, the spike protein is harmless and can't cause COVID-19. When your immune system encounters the lonely spike protein, it produces antibodies against it. This gives you protection against future COVID-19 infection.
"Unlike mRNA vaccines, the spike protein is already premade in the Novavax vaccine. It's a shortcut," explains Dr. Florescu. "All the synthesis happens outside the body and we just give the end product: the spike protein."
Yale medicine
How it works: Unlike the mRNA and vector vaccines, this is a protein adjuvant (an adjuvant is an ingredient used to strengthen the immune response). While other vaccines trick the body’s cells into creating parts of the virus that can trigger the immune system, the Novavax vaccine takes a different approach. It contains the spike protein of the coronavirus itself, but formulated as a nanoparticle, which cannot cause disease. When the vaccine is injected, this stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies and T-cell immune responses.
Nebraska Medicine link
The Novavax COVID-19 vaccine contains a protein (made using moth cells) plus an adjuvant (made from tree bark). An adjuvant is an ingredient added to boost a person's immune response, creating higher levels of antibodies.
The Novavax vaccine uses a telltale piece of the coronavirus: the notorious spike protein. All alone, the spike protein is harmless and can't cause COVID-19. When your immune system encounters the lonely spike protein, it produces antibodies against it. This gives you protection against future COVID-19 infection.
"Unlike mRNA vaccines, the spike protein is already premade in the Novavax vaccine. It's a shortcut," explains Dr. Florescu. "All the synthesis happens outside the body and we just give the end product: the spike protein."
Yale medicine
How it works: Unlike the mRNA and vector vaccines, this is a protein adjuvant (an adjuvant is an ingredient used to strengthen the immune response). While other vaccines trick the body’s cells into creating parts of the virus that can trigger the immune system, the Novavax vaccine takes a different approach. It contains the spike protein of the coronavirus itself, but formulated as a nanoparticle, which cannot cause disease. When the vaccine is injected, this stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies and T-cell immune responses.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:01 pm to MandevilleMike
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It contains the spike protein of the coronavirus itself, but formulated as a nanoparticle
Can anyone explain "formulated as a nanoparticle" to me?
So the Novavax also just uses the spike? Wouldn't that make it ineffective against variants with a mutated spike, like the current vacs are against Delta and other variants with mutated spikes?
When all of this BS started I saw a clip of an old dude talking about why there had never been a successful vaccine for any coronavirus.. something to do with binding vs non binding particles.
I don't know what that means, but every time I hear about vax and the spike it makes me wonder... Is that why all the vaccines only use the spike?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:06 pm to Tomatocantender
99.7% recovery rate.
We don't need vaccines for head colds.
We don't need vaccines for head colds.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:13 pm to Von
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When all of this BS started I saw a clip of an old dude talking about why there had never been a successful vaccine for any coronavirus.. something to do with binding vs non binding particles.
Very good point. I think I remember discussion along the same line of thinking that said it would be close to impossible for protein based to be effective because coronaviruses deal with animal to animal, and in CV19's case it went from animal to human. But then we've had success with swine and bird so I honestly don't know which way is up, but that kind of is my point. Where was the transparency from the beginning on the first ever mRNA inoculation, and now a mandated forced one or bye bye employment livelihood.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:14 pm to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
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99.7% recovery rate.
We don't need vaccines for head colds.
Yep! I still cannot grasp how everyone is so willing to be forced to be injected with something that the provider has full immunity from. WHAT IN THE frick!
Posted on 10/15/21 at 7:16 pm to MandevilleMike
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There is one, Novavax, that is delayed to manufacturing problems.
Correct and I've been following its roller coaster stock price since the summer. I have no faith that it ever gets brought to market, at least not in time for the mandate and a choice to lose your job or not. Another one I follow is ticker DYAI and their partner Sorrento.
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 7:17 pm
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