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re: Oh where oh where is my net neutrality?

Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:33 pm to
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:33 pm to
That graph is more likely caused by an antiquated system unable to handle the growth of streaming. IE Comcast is shitty. Systems improved and slow loading calls decreased.

Anyone think ESPN is throttling consumers since WatchESPN was shitty and almost unusable for much of college football season? No.. They're cutting budget and haven't kept up with their WatchESPN improvements and gave the consumer a shitty product.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:35 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:34 pm to
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Surely you realize a website like TD never comes to exist in a world without net neutrality?


Actually that's exactly the world it came to exist in.

fricking imbeciles.
Posted by MC123
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:34 pm to
What hysterics? Im here for rational debate.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:35 pm to
No your’e not. You are implying the world will end due to this Y2K ruse you’re putting out in the ether.

Says everything I need to know about you.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:36 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:35 pm to
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What hysterics? Im here for rational debate.




What year did TD start?
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:35 pm to
Wrong. If you'd read my response in the other thread you'd have a better understanding of the history of the internet, it's FCC classifications and how net neutrality has always been in place.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:36 pm to
Then, why did the internet work fine before 2015?

I don’t understand. Why do you worship government and not a God?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:36 pm to
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Bruh, why do you hate open markets that innovate technologies that make your life better?



Open markets work really well. What exactly is open-market about Comcast deliberately ruining their customers Netflix experience (that their customer pays monthly for)?
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:37 pm to
Probably 2001ish. You know back when ISPs were required to honor net neutrality.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38363 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:38 pm to
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Open markets work really well. What exactly is open-market about Comcast deliberately ruining their customers Netflix experience (that their customer pays monthly for)?


Again, when has Comcast done this since the overturn today?

You guys really need to get your talking points together. Bunch of pussies that let their feels ruin their lives.

Pathetic, really.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:40 pm to
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That graph is more likely caused by an antiquated system unable to handle the growth of streaming. IE Comcast is shitty. Systems improved and slow loading calls decreased.


You think a 500% increase in complaint calls related to low bit rate over a 4 month period is because the system was antiquated? Netflix had to pay Comcast more money before they would restore that connection.. and then normal speeds returned to comcast customers.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:41 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:41 pm to
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Probably 2001ish. You know back when ISPs were required to honor net neutrality.



When did NN get repealed?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:42 pm to
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Again, when has Comcast done this since the overturn today?


Comcast did this in 2014 and it was one of the key factors in the net neutrality ruling of 2015. Are you saying "give them another chance" or are you illiterate?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:43 pm to
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Are you saying "give them another chance"


I’m saying you don’t have a fricking say in the matter..so...?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:44 pm to
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I’m saying you don’t have a fricking say in the matter..so...?


dodging the question nice
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:45 pm to
No, I think I answered it completely.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:46 pm to
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You think a 500% increase in complaint calls related to low bit rate over a 4 month period is because the system was antiquated? Netflix had to pay Comcast more money before they would restore that connection.. and then normal speeds returned to comcast customers.


AT&T used to have horrendous service because everyone had an iPhone and their system was overloaded. AT&T improved their systems and along with the iPhone moving to other providers improved AT&T.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:47 pm to
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When did NN get repealed?


real talk.. if the NN repeal sticks around and holds up in court.. and the internet improves as a result i'll be happy as frick. that would be excellent.

but if it doesn't and ISPs abuse consumers.. then what? Deregulation at the local level could fix it but is an unrealistic option. Is there a solution other than state/federal regulation?
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:48 pm to
Not until today. Do you understand the difference between information service and title II? The internet was originally Title II but reclassified down to information service under Title I of Clinton's 1996 telecommunications act. However ISPs were required to honor the principles of net neutrality as an information service. Until 2014 when Verizon sued the FCC. Then we moved back to title II in 2015. But rules that the ISPs must honor net neutrality have been in place since the dawn of the internet. Until today.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 11:20 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38363 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:50 pm to
the net neutrality agenda is all about: supporters of net neutrality demonize Internet service providers in their populist arguments for government control.
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