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re: Netanyahu rejects cease-fire with Hamas; says, 'This is a time for war'

Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:48 am to
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:48 am to
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Today is October 31. They’ve had since October 8. Has any previous military operation in history given so much notice?


I’m talking about the actual evacuation order that gave them 24 hours to escape 20 miles before bombing. Give them one week and then turn it into a parking lot and no one would complain.
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
6243 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:51 am to
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The only term should be unconditional surrender.


And that means turning over all of hamas’ leadership. Including the douche in Qatar.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 10:53 am to
I hear you.

But any sane, responsible person could see the writing on the wall since October 7; Netanyahu projected it to the entire world. There’s been zero hesitation by Israel with regard to explaining their retaliatory stance.

Anyone who hasn’t chosen to evacuate at this point has done so for reasons that don’t involve ignorance of what is inevitable, militarily.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 11:48 am to
violence is not the answer to violence
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45195 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:11 pm to
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violence is not the answer to violence

What, specifically, is the answer to a country’s invasion and the slaughter of its most vulnerable?
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1410 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:27 pm to
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I hear you. But any sane, responsible person could see the writing on the wall since October 7; Netanyahu projected it to the entire world. There’s been zero hesitation by Israel with regard to explaining their retaliatory stance. Anyone who hasn’t chosen to evacuate at this point has done so for reasons that don’t involve ignorance of what is inevitable, militarily.


That’s a fair point. I guess I’m just thinking of how much time it would take for me to evacuate my family 20 miles without a vehicle and with plenty of other families fleeing and limited water if say neighbors of mine did something horrible and the US government decided to level my neighborhood. I think I’d need three days to a week, especially with young kids.

I also legitimately believes if in the evening of October 7, Netanyahu says civilians have one week to leave and return our hostages and then we are completely leveling whatsoever left in Gaza, that the international blowback would have been more fringe, and if he’d given them three weeks, it’d be almost nonexistent apart from the wackos.

It probably won’t impact them anyway. It’s a one sided fight from here on out, but you throw in a few of the inevitable horrific acts that happen whenever a military force occupies a civilian area and draw that out at all and it could make Israel more internationally isolated than they have any right to be given what happened
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11666 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:42 pm to
Oh no! Poor brown people are having to pay the piper!
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11666 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:44 pm to
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guess I’m just thinking of how much time it would take for me to evacuate my family 20 miles without a vehicle and with plenty of other families fleeing and limited water if say neighbors of mine did something horrible and the US government decided to level my neighborhood. I think I’d need three days to a week, especially with young kids.


They’ve had their entire lives to leave. They could have stood up against Hamas, but they didn’t. They chose this and they will all pay for it.


Hypothetical: 1200AD : If the Apache were to surprise attack a Sioux village, would the bleeding hearts cry when the Sioux struck back, killed all of the men, raped then killed the women, and then enslaved the children?

War is War. It’s not civilized and there are no pauses for you if you strike first.
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21178 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:45 pm to
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When this is done, maybe the Palestinians can find better leadership


Maybe, but when children are taught in school from very early age to hate Jews and they should be exterminated... the populations worldview is set in place.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:56 pm to
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What, specifically, is the answer to a country’s invasion and the slaughter of its most vulnerable?

The fact that you speak from 3500 miles away without the first legitimate interest in that region aside, killing children, women and innocents - its most vulnerable - does not provide a solution.

From that perspective I would not trust the first trace of information you have..

and that is BEFORE we look at the first issue on the ground in the Levant; which you likely have also not done
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295145 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Maybe, but when children are taught in school from very early age to hate Jews and they should be exterminated... the populations worldview is set in place.



No one to blame but Palestinian leadership for what is to come..

Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11666 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 12:59 pm to
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and that is BEFORE we look at the first issue on the ground in the Levant; which you likely have also not done



Tell me you’re a leftist bootlicker without telling me you’re a leftist bootlicker

They attacked and will pay the price. This is now, not 3000 years ago.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:17 pm to
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Tell me you’re a leftist bootlicker without telling me you’re a leftist bootlicker
you better find a brain quickly

You are going to be proven COMPLETELY WRONG at an alarming rate

Conservatives can seek to do thoughtful analysis before tearing into the nonsense and lies of those such as yourself in your role in the moron brigades.

I choose thoughtful.

I choose peace.

Stop being stupid.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295145 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:18 pm to
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I choose peace.


Then getting rid of Hamas should be on your list of things that need to happen.

They are THE party that refuses peace.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Then getting rid of Hamas should be on your list of things that need to happen.

They are THE party that refuses peace.
and it is just that simple, huh?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21178 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:24 pm to
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violence is not the answer to violence


Sometimes it's the only answer, such as this situation.

Tell me this, how many more civilians should Israel allow to be blown up in a bus or cafe, or slaughtered, raped, burnt, and killed from missiles launched from a hospital or school in Gaza before they should eliminate the source of the problem?????

They have tried negotiating, giving them the land Gaza sits on and offering more land which Palestinians have rejected.

Tell me, what is the solution if not violence????????
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:24 pm to
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Conservatives can seek to do thoughtful analysis before tearing into the nonsense and lies of those such as yourself in your role in the moron brigades.



Most conservatives haven't realized that what Israel is doing will eventually bring at least 100k Palestinian refugees to America. Our country will become even less white, less Christian and all on our dime.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295145 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:25 pm to
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Most conservatives haven't realized that what Israel is doing will eventually bring at least 100k Palestinian refugees to America.


Should they just let em shoot rockets, raid villages and kill their people with no response?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21867 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:28 pm to
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Or is Netanyahu really saying there are no terms for cease fire he will accept?
I wouldn't accept any terms but the complete destruction of Hamas if I were them
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42033 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 1:29 pm to
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That’s a fair point. I guess I’m just thinking of how much time it would take for me to evacuate my family 20 miles without a vehicle and with plenty of other families fleeing and limited water if say neighbors of mine did something horrible and the US government decided to level my neighborhood. I think I’d need three days to a week, especially with young kids.


Should have been prepping baw.

Sorry.
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