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re: My retirement account is up 29.5% YTD - Why is Trump getting impeached???

Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:42 am to
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9727 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:42 am to
This is a great question, I think many of us are in a similar situation and I don’t think people who are cognizant of this fact vote against him.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26780 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:48 am to
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Why is Trump getting impeached???


because 6 months before he was elected, he suggested someone should look for Hillary's emails....and years before he thought of running for president, he said "grab 'em in the pussy"
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112455 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:57 am to
My mutual fund stocks are only up 20%.
But my 4 major blue chips are up 31%.
I tell my wife that we are barely breaking even so she will only order from Amazon.com once a day instead of twice.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:00 am to
Making bank on the 401k and Gold bullion.

It's silly really
Posted by NorthEnd
Member since Oct 2007
2142 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:20 am to
Damn. I'm only at 15%. What are y'all in that I'm not?

I'm almost all Vanguard Funds
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:20 am to
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There is more to the presidency than just the economy. My 401k has loved Trump though.


There is no freedom without economic self-sufficiency
Posted by whocares1
Member since Jun 2019
308 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:22 am to
I'll tell you why I'll vote against him next election, as of today. For the record, I think the impeachment is a crock of shite and our nation will struggle to recover from it.

2 big campaign promises have been broken. The expansion of debt is the biggest one. Your 29.5% up doesn't mean anything until you are ready to cash out. The massive debt bubble being blown will destroy us older folks, who don't have time to recover from a prolonged recession, which is likely to happen during or after his second term.

The second is the promise to reduce medical costs. I realize the headwinds that he has faced, but regardless, cost reduction hasn't happened yet. Those costs tie in to the expansion of debt noted above.

I will vote against any President that doesn't make headway in those two areas. No, I will not vote Democrat, ever, so it will be a third party vote for me unless something changes in the next 11 months.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112455 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:23 am to
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Damn. I'm only at 15%. What are y'all in that I'm not? I'm almost all Vanguard Funds


I have never had funds that outperform my individual stocks that I buy direct without a broker.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41103 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:27 am to
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2 big campaign promises have been broken. The expansion of debt is the biggest one. Your 29.5% up doesn't mean anything until you are ready to cash out. The massive debt bubble being blown will destroy us older folks, who don't have time to recover from a prolonged recession, which is likely to happen during or after his second term.

The second is the promise to reduce medical costs. I realize the headwinds that he has faced, but regardless, cost reduction hasn't happened yet. Those costs tie in to the expansion of debt noted above.



Well stated.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:30 am to
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the party of the underdog
The party of good intensions

The party of and for minorities, the party of big government "can fix your problems"
The party of division
the party of emotion
The party of do nothing, but "we've got your back"



The party of using punctuation.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:38 am to
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The massive debt bubble being blown will destroy us older folks, who don't have time to recover from a prolonged recession, which is likely to happen during or after his second term.


If you’re older and not prepared for an economic downturn, it’s probably your own fault. You lived in an economy with ample opportunity for a hard-working high school graduate and affordable homes. You had the opportunity to enlist during a time of prolonged peace. You could have sacrificed cable, new cars and outfitting your kids in Air Jordans, to tuck a little away in the stock market each month.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:42 am to
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You could have sacrificed cable, new cars and outfitting your kids in Air Jordans, to tuck a little away in the stock market each month.



Its almost like something happened in 2007 which destroyed a lot of retirement accounts, pensions, etc.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:43 am to
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My retirement account is up 29.5% YTD - Why is Trump getting impeached???


Because not everyone is a single issue voter like yourself.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:44 am to
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Its almost like something happened in 2007 which destroyed a lot of retirement accounts, pensions, etc.


It’s exactly like something happened 2016-present that has brought those accounts back to where they were before and better. Reverse mortgage if you’re desperate.

You boomers have had it great and, if you’re not in a good position, that’s on you. I went to a rural school in elementary where most students’ parents made in a year what mine did in a month. Nevertheless, there they were in the drop off line, in their leased z71s, kids popping out with Jordan’s and jerseys, big screens with all the channels at home.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 10:47 am
Posted by whocares1
Member since Jun 2019
308 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:48 am to
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If you’re older and not prepared for an economic downturn, it’s probably your own fault.


Not being prepared for an economic downturn and having your 401K and/or pension destroyed by a stock market crash are 2 different things.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:51 am to
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Not being prepared for an economic downturn and having your 401K and/or pension destroyed by a stock market crash are 2 different things.


No they aren't
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:52 am to
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Not being prepared for an economic downturn and having your 401K and/or pension destroyed by a stock market crash are 2 different things.


What do you think happens during an economic downturn?

Hasn’t the stock market rebounded since then?

With ample opportunity to purchase and pay off a home, why not get a reverse mortgage?

Why cripple the next generation economically by petulantly refusing to vote for a good president who is turning our economy around and making the stock market strong?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:53 am to
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It’s exactly like something happened 2016-present that has brought those accounts back to where they were before and better. Reverse mortgage if you’re desperate.

You boomers have had it great and, if you’re not in a good position, that’s on you. I went to a rural school in elementary where most students’ parents made in a year what mine did in a month. Nevertheless, there they were in the drop off line, in their leased z71s, kids popping out with Jordan’s and jerseys, big screens with all the channels at home.



lol, i'm 30 years old.

But I can also recognize that the stock market crash, coupled with massive unemployment and low wages probably forced people to dip into their investments and savings to survive at that time. As a result, they are less able to take advantage of this rebound.

That scenario is a big reason why the stock market benefits the wealthy far more than the normal investor. The wealthy can survive the downturn, invest more after it has dropped to buy low and then ride the wave back up. Working class people have a harder time maintaining investment wealth.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 10:59 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112455 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:55 am to
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Because not everyone is a single issue voter like yourself.


They should be. And the issue is 'freedom.' The stock market is just one fan of freedom.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:57 am to
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They should be.


Trying to tell other people what they should care about, I shouldn't be surprised.
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