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re: Mexican-American judge that Trump attacked rules in favor of border wall

Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:08 am to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:08 am to
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ta: Don't post to me anymore. You are unscrupulous, and a waste of time


Unscrupulous ? That's rich.

So another la raza that's not associated with la raza?
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 7:09 am
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:59 am to
Let me add more details.

Nclr is an illegal immigrant advocacy group.

This so called judge belongs to a bar association that lists nclr as an affiliate.

Furthermore he apparently sat on a board that awarded scholarships to illegal immigrants

Trump was right in questioning this judges impartiality. Anyone who says they would trust a judge with ties to illegal immigrant advocacy groups to preside over their case with impartiality if they were proposing heavy deportation and a border wall is a liar.

This was one of the most embarrassing episodes of the election because I saw typically level headed people unscrupulously (to use your word) feign indignation over this nothing burger.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:17 am to
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Unscrupulous ? That's rich.

So another la raza that's not associated with la raza?
They are a bar association. An association of lawyers.

Here's their web site. Show me where it says they are affiliated with the national LaRaza Latino advocacy group.

ETA: Here's a portion of the Wikipedia entry on Judge Curiel WITH the footnotes. Maybe that will help you out.

quote:

Curiel is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association, a nonprofit professional association of Latino lawyers that is affiliated with a statewide organization, the La Raza Lawyers of California.[44][45] Neither these groups nor Curiel are affiliated with the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), an unrelated advocacy group.[44]
quote:

44. Michelle Ye Hee Lee (June 7, 2016). "Trump supporters' false claim that Trump U judge is a member of a pro-immigrant group".

45. Cirilli, Kevin; Bender, Michael; Jacobs, Jennifer (June 7, 2016). "Trump Orders Surrogates to Intensify Criticism of Judge and Journalists". Bloomberg News.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 9:00 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:22 am to
I expect an L.A. ban in 3...2...1...
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77945 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:25 am to
That judge got smart fast.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:41 am to
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Nclr is an illegal immigrant advocacy group.
Link?
quote:

This so called judge belongs to a bar association that lists nclr as an affiliate.

"so called judge" - He is a United States District Court Judge.

"lists nclr as an affiliate" - Lie X 2. That doesn't make it true. I posted their Bar Association page for you. Prove it.

ETA: In an edit to a previous post, I also posted Judge Curiel's Wiki page with footnotes which also confirms that the California La Raza Bar Association group is not affiliated with the National Council of La Raza (NCLR).

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Furthermore he apparently sat on a board that awarded scholarships to illegal immigrants

He apparently ... Apparent to who? You???

Link?
quote:

because I saw typically level headed people unscrupulously (to use your word) feign indignation over this nothing burger.

The only nothing burger on here is you. You just make this stuff up as you go along.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 8:54 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:43 am to
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texridder


I love how Toddy’s alter is more masculine. It must be refreshing for him to get some of that low-T out every once in a while.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:13 am to
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At least you don't have to wonder why people call you names. You are as dumb as a box of rocks and a shitty troll as well.

Like I said, you're just miffed because I pointed out you were wrong.

If that makes me dumb as a box of rocks, what does that make you?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 9:15 am to
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Like I said, you're just miffed because I pointed out you were wrong.


Just because you continue to say this doesn’t make it right.

The fact that numerous people in this thread have pointed out how wrong you are; should tell you much about yourself.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Link?



From wiki:

UnidosUS, formerly National Council of La Raza (NCLR) (La Raza),[1] is the United States's largest Latino nonprofit advocacy organization. It advocates in favor of progressive public policy changes including immigration reform, a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and reduced deportations

quote:

Prove it.


It's on their links and affiliates page, directly links nclr, as I already told you.

quote:

He apparently ... Apparent to who? You???


Reality? Dunno , it was reported and sourced at the time of this nothingburger. It's not my job to catch you up on year and a half old news.

I've never seen anyone work so hard to be wrong about everything.



This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:47 am to
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It's on their links and affiliates page, directly links nclr, as I already told you.


Here is their website link and they don't have a links and affiliates page. LINK

Here's a quote from the lawyer who represented the NCLR from the Forbes article I've already linked:

quote:

The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) was a client of mine many years ago. It’s a distinguished organization, the predominant, mildly center left, old line Latino civil rights organization. (NCLR called upon me to help it find abundant funding for its national charter school initiative, and we did.) NCLR has no connection to the group using the name “La Raza” with which Judge Curiel was loosely connected nor to many small groups who go by that name.


From the Washington Post.

quote:

As The Post and other media outlets have pointed out repeatedly, Curiel is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association, which is a professional organization for Latino lawyers. The group is the San Diego local affiliate of the California La Raza Lawyers Association, whose membership comprises lawyers practicing in California, and is a 501(c)(6) nonprofit trade organization. It has an affiliated 501(c)(3) scholarship fund that awarded 22 scholarships totaling $34,000 in 2014. More on that later.

This group is not the National Council of La Raza, the Hispanic civil rights nonprofit organization that has pushed for comprehensive immigration reform in Congress with a pathway to citizenship and legalization for undocumented immigrants. It’s often referred to as simply “La Raza,” especially in the context of the immigration debate.

LINK

I've never seen anyone work so hard to be wrong. Try harder next time.



Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 10:53 am to
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Here is their website link and they don't have a links and affiliates page


California La Raza Lawyers Association does.

Keep fighting so hard to be wrong.

quote:

, the predominant, mildly center left


Promoting amnesty and fighting abortions, hahahahahahhahaahahahahah
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Here is their website link and they don't have a links and affiliates page. LINK


quote:

California La Raza Lawyers Association does.



So the California La Raza site (not the San Diego La Raza site) has the NCLR listed as one of the eighteen entities on its links and affiliates site.

Do you think that make all 18 of those entities affiliates?

You just hang real tight on that -- and disregard the Forbes and WaPost quotes from people who are from NCLR saying the two groups are separate and not affiliated.









Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:40 am to
quote:

The fact that numerous people in this thread have pointed out how wrong you are; should tell you much about yourself

Well, you didn't read any of the posts so as usual your post is just hot air.

And of course you threw in a claim that I am Rex's alter for reinforcement, which further proves you know nothing.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

e I said, you're just miffed because I pointed out you were wrong.

If that makes me dumb as a box of rocks, what does that make you


It makes you a lying sack of shite and you're still dumb as a rock. You keep quoting the same bullshite article. You must enjoy being called names and thought of as an idiot.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:34 pm to
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So the California La Raza site (not the San Diego La Raza site) has the NCLR listed as one of the eighteen entities on its links and affiliates sit


The San Diego chapter belongs to the California chapter.

It's ok to go ahead and admit you are wrong. I know this was one of the foundational beliefs in your dislike of the president. But sometimes we have to grow and accept we were fooled. I recommend you do. Youll be better off for it.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

It makes you a lying sack of shite and you're still dumb as a rock. You keep quoting the same bull shite article.

The bull shite article I quoted was from Forbes, and the person that was quotedin the article was a lawyer who represents NCLR, and who said that the law association that Curiel belonged to was NOT associated with NCLR.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
35404 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:15 pm to
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He questioned his ability to remain impartial about Trump building a wall between the US and his family’s country of origin


If we take that, then you can find a billion reasons every judge will fail to be impartial.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

The San Diego chapter belongs to the California chapter.

It's ok to go ahead and admit you are wrong. I know this was one of the foundational beliefs in your dislike of the president. But sometimes we have to grow and accept we were fooled. I recommend you do. Youll be better off for it.


I posted a quote from Forbes from a lawyer who represents NCLR who said that the bar association that Curiel belongs to is not associated with NCLR.

I posted a WaPost article with quotes from 2 people who said that the organizations were not related:

quote:

“The only tie that we have is that we serve the Latino community, and they do as well,” said Luis Osuna, president of the lawyers association. “But they’re a politically driven advocacy group, and we’re just a local diversity Bar association that focuses on both diversity and equality in the legal field, but particularly among Latinos.”

Lisa Navarette, a spokeswoman for the National Council of La Raza, confirmed this, saying: “The two organizations know of each other but are two completely separate organizations, and nothing wrong with either organization. The judge is not a member of NCLR, but there wouldn’t be any issue if he was.”


All you posted was that the NCLR was one of eighteen entities listed on the links and affiliates section of the California La Raza web site.

Lets see. I have quotes from three people with direct knowledge of the situation, and you have a single listing out of eighteen listed "links and affiliates" from a website.

It's not even close. You are the loser.




Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98294 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:49 pm to
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I've never seen anyone work so hard to be wrong. Try harder next time.


You certainly are working ot on this epic fail
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