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re: Medicine Isn't A Science. Practice of the diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of disease

Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:42 pm to
Drs. are still pushing the clot shot.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:42 pm to
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I bet if he isn't a chiro, he has one that he uses that feeds him all the nonsense he wants to hear.
Now THAT I'd buy in to.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:44 pm to
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People are laughing
the only ones laughing seem to be doctors with something to protect
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:44 pm to
Serious question

How would you design a study to prove germ theory through aerosol/saliva transfer?

It sound simple on the surface but even if made a study that had sick people coughing on healthy people who subsequently got sick, couldn’t you just claim it was something else that caused the disease and not the pathogen through the air?

You could just say it was some other component of the sick persons saliva or aerosol that weakened the other persons immune system for example and not a direct pathogen transfer
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:46 pm to
I would accept it. I would want to see how it is controlled. It would be repeated. Some would be better than others. There is no explanation for why it hasn't been done many times.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:46 pm to
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You've had 100 years. We've seen all the horrible experiments. Don't blame your ethics now. Go to another country. I'll volunteer.


I haven’t been alive for 100 years. But there have been controlled studies of airborne transmission of TB, for example, you just choose to ignore them. Observational studies going back to the early 1900s have demonstrated exposure and illness in healthcare workers in the wards. Why don’t you just go into a hospital, find an airborne or droplet precaution room and hang out there for a day or two and see if you get infected with the same illness? You can do the experiment yourself, why do you need us to do it for you? It’s not like you’ll believe the study since it was done by evil physicians.

And why didn’t you respond to the rest of my post? I’ll post it again below so you can quote it and respond with nothing more than your opinion. I don’t even need #proof…

One more question that has been asked and you’ve never answered, how is influenza or Epstein-Barr virus transmitted to humans? In the case of EBV, how do controlled studies of small communities demonstrate 100% presence or EBV ABs in adults and only 10-30% presence in children with increasing incidence of AB as cohorts get older? How did everyone in the community get exposed to the virus? Sumaya et al since you’re into references and analyzing scientific literature

Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:51 pm to
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you have to look at almost all the studies for each of the individual medications. They're scummy like that.


So you have no proof that “almost all medications lead to liver failure?”

How does Neurontin have any effect on the liver?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:51 pm to
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I haven’t been alive for 100 years. But there have been controlled studies of airborne transmission of TB, for example, you just choose to ignore them.
That's not true. Those who submitted chose to ignore real criteria. Like the criteria you described. Not guinea pigs and radiation. If they are there, show them to me.
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Why don’t you just go into a hospital, find an airborne or droplet precaution room and hang out there for a day or two and see if you get infected with the same illness? 
I've spent half my life doing that. Again, why do you think doctors are not very germophobic?
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You can do the experiment yourself, why do you need us to do it for you? 
I have.
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It’s not like you’ll believe the study since it was done by evil physicians.
It's insanity it doesn't exist. That's the point. The reason it doesn't exist is not because I would doubt it one day. There is no logical reason it doesn't exist. It should exist in bounds
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:51 pm to
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Drs. are still pushing the clot shot.
"drs" are?
Are you sure, genius?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:52 pm to
I already tried this. He even denied a link when there was a measles outbreak with PCR showing the exact same serotype, one that had not been detected in that country before.

Gags, can a man get HPV from eating bad pussy?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:52 pm to
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How does Neurontin have any effect on the liver?


How does one medication disprove "almost all"

Come on. Logic. Reading.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:53 pm to
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I've spent half my life doing that.
Are you 5?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:57 pm to
This is a witch hunt. There is no possible winning with answering personal questions. There is no possible defense against personal accusations. You refuse to provide proof and debate.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 8:58 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:58 pm to
LINK

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In 1956, tuberculosis was a major global killer, and it disproportionately affected military veterans hospitalized in the Veterans Administration hospital system. Then, as now with COVID-19, epidemiologists held that tuberculosis and other respiratory diseases were spread by large infected droplets through person-to-person contact or contaminated surfaces. But Richard L. Riley, an expert on lung physiology at the then Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, and his mentor, William F. Wells, had identified another possible mode of transmission. Atop the Baltimore VA Hospital, they constructed an air-tight closed ventilation system that connected a six-room tuberculosis ward to an exposure chamber with 150 guinea pigs. (Among rodent animal models, only guinea pigs could cough and sneeze, making them ideal for studying how respiratory diseases spread.) The guinea pigs were exposed to the infected air over a four-year period. A second group of 150 guinea pigs acted as controls: their air ducts were irradiated with UV-C lamps to kill TB bacilli. In the test group, an average of three guinea pigs per month contracted TB, while no controls were infected. The experiment not only proved the airborne disease transmission of tuberculosis for the first time, but also quantified how many TB infections could be expected to result from exposure to a given number of patients over a defined interval. The Baltimore VA study demonstrated that an infected droplet expelled from a tuberculosis patient’s nose or mouth could evaporate into a microscopic droplet, from 2 to 5 microns in diameter, that was easily carried on air currents. Once it assumed this aerosol form, it was doubly dangerous: the airborne droplet became inhalable and could spread TB from far away. This mode of transmission could infect far more people and was more difficult to trace than direct person-to-person contact.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14824 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:59 pm to
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This is a witch hunt. There is no possible winning with answering personal questions. There is no possible defense against personal accusations. You refuse to provide proof and debate.


alright let's flip this then, show valid scientific studies that prove terrain theory.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:00 pm to
Oh my God. It's guinea pigs. This is the standard you learn in school and come up with on the first Google search. Just read it. Did you forget everything? Does everyone have short term memory loss?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:01 pm to
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show valid scientific studies that prove terrain theory.
First they have to be allowed and approved, repeated and honestly tested.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:03 pm to
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This is a witch hunt. There is no possible winning with answering personal questions. There is no possible defense against personal accusations. You refuse to provide proof and debate.



Your knowledge level suggests a non-medical professional (i.e. an absolute moron) but your new-found defensiveness suggests chiropractor. Do you have a chiro in your family? Maybe a naturopath? Some other homeopathic guru? A lady who once sucked your dick while you were on LSD with the incense floating in the air and the music of one Carlos Santana (from the 70's, although that album in 2001 could get it) in the background?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:06 pm to
You continue to double down in real time as a caricature of my description of you. It's the most surreal thing.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:06 pm to
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Oh my God. It's guinea pigs. This is the standard you learn in school and come up with on the first Google search. Just read it. Did you forget everything? Does everyone have short term memory loss?


Like I said, whatever study we post you will find some excuse as to why it’s not satisfactory.

Explain to me in detail why a Guinea pig doesn’t prove the hypothesis.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 9:07 pm
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