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MAGA vs. the U.S. Chamber of Commerce

Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:08 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:08 am
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The general public typically equates the Chamber of Commerce with local Mom and Pop businesses in their area which meet for networking and mutual support in local chapters across the country.


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Even seasoned politicians are susceptible to having misconceptions about the Chamber. Former U.S. senator Jim Demint admits he naively thought it was lobbying for free enterprise and creating a better business environment for everybody. Now he says, "I pronounce them part of the swamp." Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich), a conservative, adds, "I believe in free markets and am against cronyism and corporate welfare, and they [the U.S. Chamber of Commerce] support those things."

So what is the USCC? It is a business lobbying group that represents 80% of the Fortune 100 companies and is by far the largest interest group in Washington. According the Wall Street Journal, the Chamber spent $125 million in lobbying in 2014 and $95 million last year. This dwarfs the spending of any other interest group. One tactic the Chamber uses to swell its revenue is to solicit money from big international companies to promote specific goals. Since donor names are not public, the Chamber can pursue controversial fights without identifying the firms behind the effort.

The Chamber of Commerce and its president Thomas Donohue came into conflict with Donald Trump and his America First platform very early on. For 18 months during the runup to the 2016 election, the Chamber spared no effort to demonize Trump. In doing so, the Chamber was carrying water for the Hillary Clinton campaign. Donohue and company figured they could better deal with Hillary than Trump in the Oval Office. In this, the Chamber was exactly right.

The big hangups the Chamber and its client base had against Donald Trump involved immigration, trade, and tariffs. Adhering to its corporate masters’ call for a continuous supply of cheap labor, the Chamber lobbies for more immigration and resists tight border controls. Trade is much the same. Past trade pacts have allowed Wall Street to grow obscenely rich in the outsourcing of American jobs to third-world countries for sake of the bottom line of the multinationals. In the process, over a million ordinary Americans were left holding the bag.

All this is still playing out today. The president is striving to adjust the unfair trading arrangements that the political class, in cahoots with the big money interests on Wall Street, have saddled the U.S. with. But Trump and his trade team of Robert Lighthizer, Wilbur Ross, Steven Mnuchin, and Larry Kudlow are fighting not just China, but what is effectively a Fifth Column here at home. It's composed of the likes of the Chamber of Commerce and a sizable portion of the political establishment, which is used to dipping its beak in special-interest money.


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A closing observation says a lot. Thomas Donohue, the president of the Chamber of Commerce, is 80 years old. His board is pushing him to retire. The replacement they are looking at is former Congressman Paul Ryan. A perfect fit given the Chamber's agenda.


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ETA: the 30,000 foot take away here is when you see opposition to Trump form "NeverTrumpers" and "RINOS" especially establishment types in the Senate you now know the source of the Trump opposition...the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:22 am to
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The replacement they are looking at is former Congressman Paul Ryan. A perfect fit given the Chamber's agenda.




Beautiful
Posted by Hogs78
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2019
963 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:24 am to
Time to burn it down!
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:26 am to
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The replacement they are looking at is former Congressman Paul Ryan. A perfect fit given the Chamber's agenda.

fingers crossed this happens bc Trump will just continue to kick his whiney arse
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:27 am to
Thanks this really help put things into a new perspective for me, fills in the gaps and clears up the picture and clarifies the enemy within and against the Republican Party
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:33 am to
Now you know why Paul Ryan obstructed Trump's agenda or slow walked at best for the first two years. Paul Ryan was lobbied hard by Tom Donahue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to oppose Trump due to Trump's stance on illegal immigration, trade and tariffs.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is anti-American. They lobby against American interest. They lobby for the exfiltration of U.S. wealth to China. That exfiltration is accomplished by top 100 companies picking up shop, moving to China and expecting to sell their products back in the U.S. while decimating the U.S. manufacturing base and promoting welfare/socialism in lieu of jobs so Americans can continue to purchase their cheap Chinese products which in the long run makes America really really poor.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:36 am to
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Now you know why Paul Ryan obstructed Trump's agenda or slow walked at best for the first two years. Paul Ryan was lobbied hard by Tom Donahue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to oppose Trump due to Trump's stance on illegal immigration, trade and tariffs.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is anti-American. They lobby against American interest. They lobby for the exfiltration of U.S. wealth to China. That exfiltration is accomplished by top 100 companies picking up shop, moving to China and expecting to sell their products back in the U.S. while decimating the U.S. manufacturing base and promoting welfare/socialism in lieu of jobs so Americans can continue to purchase their cheap Chinese products which in the long run makes America really really poor.




Well said....when I think Chamber of Commerce I think of supporting local business environments and that is not what they are about
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:36 am to
A very important post to understand the lies of the Mitt Romneys and IB Freemans of the world.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:42 am to
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Well said....when I think Chamber of Commerce I think of supporting local business environments and that is not what they are about




Local Chambers are fine to support. They promote local business. I do not believe they have any financial association with the U.S. Chamber who's primary concern is multi-national giant business...not U.S. business.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10333 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:51 am to
This makes a lot of sense.

Will be laughable when the Chamber throws their support to Biden, Harris or some other whacko anti American progressive and says how that candidate “supports” or “is good for” American business.

Oh, Ryan is a little never trump bitch.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22679 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:24 am to
Chamber of Commerce = US as LABI= La.
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