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re: Looking back at the Alex Jones trial.

Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:46 pm to
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still crickets from DisplacedBuckeye...prove me wrong about what you said responding to my original post.


Calm down, and see above.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:46 pm to
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People who defend Alex Jones are going straight to hell. No discussion, straight to hell.


So, are the people that defend the Rhetoric of a platform such as the Young Turds, I mean Young Turks, are they also going to hell?

Since when has freedom of speech been about 100% agreeance or even worrying about other's feelings? Jones was 100% wrong about Sandy Hook and we once lived in a society that had him labeled as a nut job, and that's where it ended. We now live in a society that a man can be sued for 1.5 billion dollars for just uttering a false accusation that had no victims. If you can't see the insanity behind this then you don't deserve the little bit of freedom you still have.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:49 pm to
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Incorrect.

As you now know, the judiciary is included in the government.


so in your opinion, citizens shouldn't have the ability to sue for defamation? even though it's the law.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:49 pm to
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MAGA is acting like this is the first time in history someone won a defamation lawsuit.


It's always funny when something bad happens to a MAGA figure, all of the little cultists find out about something that the world has known about forever.

See: defamation, obstruction, falsifying business records, assault, etc
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:49 pm to
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so in your opinion, citizens shouldn't have the ability to sue for defamation?


I've never said that.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:51 pm to
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So what happened to all those families (whose children were brutally murdered) because of that opinion?


You are making it sound like the kids were murdered because of Jones's opinion, that's just fricking stupid. They were murdered because a pathetic shite stain of a person decided to hit up the softest and most innocent target he could find.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52093 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:52 pm to
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I've never said that.


you aren't making sense because if a judge "in your opinion" shouldn't be allowed to hand down punishment for defamation then by default you shouldn't be able to sue someone in a court of law for defamation otherwise who would hand out the punishment if found guilty?

make it make sense.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:53 pm to
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make it make sense.

He won't. He's a textual absolutist that lacks either the conviction or ability to articulate his belief that enumerated rights are absolute, despite no court or legal authority in the history of the United States agreeing with him--including the people who wrote the Constitution.

That or he's just playing semantics.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 3:57 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:57 pm to
You understand that Jones was penalized far beyond what the jury awarded, don't you?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:58 pm to
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Indefatigable


Just go sit in the corner and color.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52093 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:59 pm to
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You understand that Jones was penalized far beyond what the jury awarded, don't you?


that has nothing to with free speech, respectfully.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:00 pm to
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You understand that Jones was penalized far beyond what the jury awarded, don't you?

Yea, that'll happen when you lie to the court and hide or destroy evidence. Probably shouldn't do that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:00 pm to
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that has nothing to with free speech, respectfully.


Nonsense. More than that, it circles back to my original point and indeed the larger point of this thread.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:00 pm to
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Yea, that'll happen when you lie to the court and hide or destroy evidence. Probably shouldn't do that.


Beyond that as well.

The corner. Go find it.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52093 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:06 pm to
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Nonsense. More than that, it circles back to my original point and indeed the larger point of this thread.


can you post a link to prove your above post about him being penalized more than the jury awarded?

because what i found was one juy (Connecticut) awarded 965 million and another (Texas) 50 million.

so how was he penalized more than what the jury awarded again?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35826 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:07 pm to
The massive $900+ million dollar damage award came from a jury in Connecticut, not a judge. The Texas judge waived the punitive damages cap for the Texas jury award in that suit.

Effectively none of it is getting paid anyway.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52093 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:08 pm to
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The massive $900+ million dollar damage award came from a jury in Connecticut, not a judge. The Texas judge nominally awarded damages above the Texas jury award in that suit, but it doesn't matter because punitive damages are capped by Texas law.

Effectively none of it is getting paid anyway.
you found what i found! so he's still wrong
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:09 pm to
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so how was he penalized more than what the jury awarded again?


The total was closer to $1.4 billion.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:10 pm to
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The Texas judge nominally awarded damages above the Texas jury award in that suit, but it doesn't matter because punitive damages are capped by Texas law.


This was wrong. See his edit...
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35826 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 4:11 pm to
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The total was closer to $1.4 billion.

Cumulatively between the various cases, yes and that total includes atty fees. None of the cases gave that award on their own, unless you have a link saying that?

He ostensibly has to pay the $1.1b damages awards, but the attorney fee and costs are getting wiped in bankruptcy.

No one will ever see a dime.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 4:12 pm
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