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re: Kyle Rittenhouse- Jury Instructions/Closing Arguments

Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25804 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

I hope it's the bald guy closing, he is a much better presenter and speaker than the other dude for the defense



Agree 100% but all indications thus far is that Richards will be doing the closing. He is good on facts but not very persuasive.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:30 pm to
Just the other day the judge said he has cut lawyers off midsentence and now he says they can go for 8 hours if they want.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107226 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

If the shoe fits?


That's the rub here right? The fascism shoe fits you perfectly kid.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22394 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Just the other day the judge said he has cut lawyers off midsentence and now he says they can go for 8 hours if they want.

Because he is paying attention to the coverage he is getting about being biased.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Found Binger's house on Google Earth. Obama 2012 sign in the front yard. Figures.




He ran for DA as a dem.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:31 pm to
Sucks for Kyle. Dude is super nervous
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6475 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

The fascism shoe fits you


Because I don't want judges to act like fascists? Nice logic.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:31 pm to
Not a fan of Richards. His voice is annoying.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92580 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:31 pm to
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Again, he did object in the very first minute of the closing statement and the judge overruled him by saying you can make that point in your closing.



I didn't watch, but this is just further revelation this has been in the bag for the State the entire time. Judge has been really mean to the State in short, loud, demonstrable spurts, then let everything they want in. He dumped the misdemeanor, but not any felonies. He threatened mistrial, but is going to give it to the jury. If they convict, he will NOT overturn it. If the jury hangs, he will NOT declare the mistrial with prejudice.

The only real win possibility for Kyle is to get a full acquittal by the jury, and the "lesser included" bullshite will probably give them an out, even though it doesn't make a lick of fricking sense. If the jury convicts him on "lesser included", the judge won't touch that, either.

The only recourse is the court of appeals and not knowing what is required to preserve issues on appeal, I'm not certain the defense team did enough, frankly, to prevail at higher levels.

If any felony convictions come down, they will stand at the trial level and Kyle needs an entirely new team going forward, IMHO.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:32 pm to
Rekieta Law agrees with us: "Wrong choice"
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7402 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:32 pm to
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If you're into fascism, yeah that's what the judge should do.


There you go projecting like the rest of your ANTIFA buddies
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15963 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:32 pm to
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Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:33 pm to
Prosecution objects seconds after the defense starts their closing arguments....that was what Kyle's defense should have been doing when Backdoor Binger was giving the prosecution's closing arguments.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107226 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:33 pm to
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Because I don't want judges to act like fascists?


You just look at those you vote for and the ideology you push is all I need to make that claim.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21250 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:33 pm to
He sho is angry.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22394 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:33 pm to
Richards is pissed.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6475 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

You just look at those you vote


You have no idea who I vote for.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7402 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:34 pm to
"Think back to November 2, you never heard provocation. Not until Mr. Binger's case exploded in his face."
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 2:35 pm
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15963 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Because I don't want judges to act like fascists?



In what way is the judge acting like a fascist?
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2352 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:34 pm to
AR-14?

Good lord they picked the wrong lawyer for this.
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