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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:33 am to
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:33 am to
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Skeptics won't view the videos the way my brother and I want the videos to be viewed.


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How are they supposed to view them?


First at regular speed then at slower speeds and finally frame by frame like my brother and I did.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:52 am to
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You're a liar and a troll


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Actually, he's a cryptozoologist.


I'm just an eyewitness. I'm not a Cryptozoologist.

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Cryptozoologists are similar to conspiracy theorists. Any evidence, even anecdotal, that lends credence to their theories carries the same weight for them that conventional science gets from the scientific method. Their desire to be right borders on the obsessive, preventing them from using objectivity in their pursuit of understanding their self-constructed phenomena.


Part of the scientific method is to examine our videos with an unbiased eye to determine what data they contain. In order to do that every frame of our videos must be closely examined which is something the pseudo-scientists in the so-called scientific community refuse to do.

Why are skeptics and pseudo-scientists in the so-called scientific community afraid of examining our videos frame by frame?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:59 am to
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DawgfaninCa


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You're a liar and a troll


You wish my brother and I were liars and trolls.

Get the polygraph test set up for my brother and me to take and we'll prove we are telling the truth.

If you refuse to set up a polygraph test for my brother and me to take then you are just an Archie Debunker who goes on the internet to harass and insult eyewitnesses who dare to report that they had a definitive sighting of a sea serpent.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 1:04 am to
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So... I take it that you won't be showing me your videos?


So I take it that you are not going to buy an expensive digital video camera and bring it to San Francisco so you can get a better video than my brother and I got?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:52 am to
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First at regular speed then at slower speeds and finally frame by frame like my brother and I did.


And that's the magic pill?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:51 am to
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I already said some people jog or walk their dogs at Crissy fields in the early morning.


SOME people?! That place is heavily trafficked.

Some people.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:52 am to
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Skeptics won't view the videos the way my brother and I want the videos to be viewed.


AKA you're full of shite, you know it, and you don't want any hard evidence of that fact to be publicly available.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:44 am to
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First at regular speed then at slower speeds and finally frame by frame like my brother and I did.


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And that's the magic pill?


That's the proper way for anyone especially scientists to examine all of the data contained in the videos.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:10 am to
Can we get back to talking about UFOs and skunk works?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:14 am to
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Skeptics won't view the videos the way my brother and I want the videos to be viewed.


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AKA you're full of shite, you know it, and you don't want any hard evidence of that fact to be publicly available.


I know how skeptics and debunkers work.

They've already said that the first video is too blurry and isn't good enough even though they hadn't even looked at the video yet or if they just view the first video at regular speed, they say it isn't good enough because "it's too shaky" when all they have to do is view the video at a slower speed and/or frame by frame and most or all of the shaking is eliminated.

I know what data the videos contain and I challenge any skeptic or so-called scientist to debate my brother and me in a public forum where we can show our entire videos at slower speeds and specific frames from the videos which will prove the black objects in our videos are portions of large unknown serpentine marine animals breaking the surface of the water.

However, the so-called scientists are afraid to debate my brother and me because they are concerned that their colleagues will ridicule them and think they are crazy for seriously considering there is a possibility that sea serpents might exist if they merely look at our videos to see if they show images of sea serpents.

This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:24 am to
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Can we get back to talking about UFOs and skunk works?


Did you view any of the videos I posted yesterday?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:28 am to
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SOME people?! That place is heavily trafficked.


bullshite!

Go to Crissy Fields or the Saint Francis Yacht Club parking lot right before dawn and you'll be lucky to see a few people there at that time.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 9:42 am to
Here's another article about The Great Pyramid and out of place objects.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:14 am to
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That's the proper way for anyone especially scientists to examine all of the data contained in the videos.


It's likely that they know better than you how to examine all data, and that they did examine it. I wonder why they found your evidence lacking, other than the obvious conspiracy bullshite you toss out.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:26 am to
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So I take it that you are not going to buy an expensive digital video camera and bring it to San Francisco so you can get a better video than my brother and I got?


Correct. I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars for a camera when I wouldn't use it for anything. Although you could simply post your video for free. Idk why you're so scared to share it with me.
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2879 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:37 am to
I believe other life exist and has visited our planet. The known universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old. The earth is 4.5 billion years old. There are 100 billion stars in our galaxy that may have habitable planets orbiting them. There are 100 billion galaxies out there containing billions of starts each that may have habitable planets. The chances of life existing outside of earth is exponentially huge.

Now consider a civilization that is 100, 1000, 1,000,000 or even a billion years ahead of us. And then think about how far we have advanced in the past 100 years then you may be able to imagine how even civilizations outside of our galaxy may be able to locate and travel to other civilizations.

People once thought the world was flat. People once laughed of the fact than man could one day fly like the birds....the list goes on and on.

In short yes I believe in alien life and I do believe we have been and continue to be visited and observed.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:39 am to
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In short yes I believe in alien life and I do believe we have been and continue to be visited and observed.


But do you believe in a magic sea monster In San Francisco Bay that one of our very own tigerdroppings members caught on film yet refuses to share said film while calling everyone a skeptic, and won't show the videos to skeptics because they will just say it's not what he knows it is?
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2879 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:44 am to
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But do you believe in a magic sea monster In San Francisco Bay that one of our very own tigerdroppings members caught on film yet refuses to share said film while calling everyone a skeptic, and won't show the videos to skeptics because they will just say it's not what he knows it is?


If he has film lets see it! Who cares what others might say, let them judge for themselves. But not showing it on the basis that some may laugh it off isn't a justifiable reason in my eyes....opinions may vary of course!
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38457 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 11:50 am to
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If he has film lets see it! Who cares what others might say, let them judge for themselves. But not showing it on the basis that some may laugh it off isn't a justifiable reason in my eyes...


100% agree. I just wanna see the video for myself. Hell I'll even do his "gotta watch full speed, then half speed. Then frame by frame" crap. But nope. I've been labeled as a skeptic and told to buy a camera and make a better film... But how can I make a better film if I haven't seen what I need to film or what benchmark is set to be "better" than his.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 12:04 pm to
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There are 100 billion galaxies out there containing billions of starts each that may have habitable planets.


That number has recently been upped to approximately 2 trillion.

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Now consider a civilization that is 100, 1000, 1,000,000 or even a billion years ahead of us. And then think about how far we have advanced in the past 100 years then you may be able to imagine how even civilizations outside of our galaxy may be able to locate and travel to other civilizations.


I think life is probably ubiquitous wherever conditions for it to arise are nominal. Life is merely a complex chemical chain reaction. There's nothing mysterious about how it comes to be.

Intelligence, however, is another matter altogether. It may be much more rare. It took 4.5 billion years for an intelligent species to evolve on earth, for example.

Humans represent the end result of natural evolution. We can go no further in this form. For intelligence to continue to evolve on earth, a jump shift from biological intelligence to artificial intelligence must happen. This would rapidly develop into artificial super intelligence (ASI).

If other biological intelligent species in the Universe have managed to make this leap, then there are probably many ASI species. Of course, their intelligence would compare to ours as we compare to ants. It may be that we'll have to first evolve to ASI just to be able to detect and communicate with them.
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