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re: Jefferson was correct on many things...
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:03 pm to FredBear
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:03 pm to FredBear
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What side is it you're thinking I'm on? I'm not trying to fight but I am curious because the truth is we are supposed to be citizens, not subjects and our politicians are supposed to be representatives, not rulers. That's how our country is supposed to work and that seems to be getting forgotten by some
So what are you gonna do that none of yall have done your whole lives? This isnt the first time bad shite has happened. boomers have always been sheep and nothing else
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:04 pm to crazy4lsu
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What matters is not some naive notion on how the country is supposed to work, but how it does work in actual practice.
this is poetic
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:08 pm to HillabeeBaw
I would add when a nation loses its moral compass and there is senseless random violence on the streets you know your country is in deep trouble. Arrogant, evil, angry people will always find guns to kill. IMO, this nation crossed the threshold of evil on January 22, 1973 - Roe v Wade. I recall being sickened by the decision. Our country slid quickly downhill from there.
From the beginning, our Founding Fathers expressed concern about the ability of future generations to preserve this gift they gave us - A Representative Constitutional Republic form of government.
They left us with this reminder.....
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other". - John Adams
From the beginning, our Founding Fathers expressed concern about the ability of future generations to preserve this gift they gave us - A Representative Constitutional Republic form of government.
They left us with this reminder.....
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other". - John Adams
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 10:16 am
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:08 pm to LSU1SLU
Pretty sure you’re just a sad little internet troll and for whatever reason likes to tell others what they will or will not do. You have no idea who you are talking to on an anonymous public message board. I hope one day life gives you the attitude adjustment you so desperately need.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:10 pm to crazy4lsu
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What makes a bunch of older, mostly fat gun-owners who have lots of things at stakes if resistance fails think they can resist the US security state in its current form is driven by bravado than it is by reality.
There is no reason for the US security apparatus to even fear gun owners just because they have guns. They have no means or methods to organize.
What you're missing is the political reality of the entire nation watching a (potential) gunfight between the government and citizens. Sane politicians don't want that on their watch. Guns in the hands of private owners stop a lot of abuse before it ever starts, just like they keep some crimes from ever happening.
I don't know and never really cared enough about Amon Bundy to see what side I agreed with, but that entire thing never even makes the news without the 2nd Amendment. It would be more akin to what would happen in China; government does something, tells whoever may have seen it to shut up, it goes away.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:12 pm to bayoudude
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Pretty sure you’re just a sad little internet troll and for whatever reason likes to tell others what they will or will not do. You have no idea who you are talking to on an anonymous public message board. I hope one day life gives you the attitude adjustment you so desperately need.
Another fat arse who wont do anything.. like I said.. I hope I am the one tasked with coming take your shite while you sitting down eating cheetos. I have no idea what I am talking about but yall trying to act like yall gonna start some rebellion but cant pull up an lsu baseball live stream without asking how
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:16 pm to Flats
you act like you would have access to electricity. running water. tigerdroppings. if you rebel you have to figure out life.. yall cant walk and chew gum. this thread is too funny
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:17 pm to LSU1SLU
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you act like you would have access to electricity. running water. tigerdroppings. if you rebel you have to figure out life.. yall cant walk and chew gum. this thread is too funny
Not surprisingly, you missed the entire point.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:21 pm to Flats
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Guns in the hands of private owners stop a lot of abuse before it ever starts, just like they keep some crimes from ever happening
what tv show you been watching. when and where does this happen. How naive are you? Do you believe in unicorns as well?
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:29 pm to Zarkinletch416
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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other". - John Adams
The two posters in here cheerleading oppressive government sure are proving this true.
And to the one saying he hopes he's the one that gets to come confiscate our shite..... So do I bud, so do I
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:36 pm to Flats
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What you're missing is the political reality of the entire nation watching a (potential) gunfight between the government and citizens.
There’s a massive portion of the US populace that would cheer this on as long as the violence was directed toward their perceived enemies. I mean, the clear example is post-Reconstruction governments in the South, who unleashed an absolutely brutal reign of tyranny upon the black populace. Why would anyone think the US populace wouldn’t be divided along political lines with this too, especially with the scale and degree of psyops that would be run against resistance groups?
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Guns in the hands of private owners stop a lot of abuse before it ever starts, just like they keep some crimes from ever happening.
I’m skeptical of this line of logic, because the gun ownership rate has been around 40% of the population since the 1970s, and the crime rate spiked to all-time highs during that time, with it recovering to numbers not seen before the Civil Rights era. The crime rate doesn’t seem directly correlated to gun ownership rates, or even dependent upon those rates.
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I don't know and never really cared enough about Amon Bundy to see what side I agreed with, but that entire thing never even makes the news without the 2nd Amendment.
But did it actually change anything? That’s the ultimate point of resistance movements, to affect political change. People don’t start resistance movements without political end-goals in mind.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:37 pm to FredBear
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And to the one saying he hopes he's the one that gets to come confiscate our shite..... So do I bud, so do I
you will sit there like the sheep you have been your whole life. you morons think govt just started screwing yall over.. boomers finally got internet and see the world is corrupt lmao.. yall no different than the people who got fooled by hitler
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:38 pm to FredBear
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The two posters in here cheerleading oppressive government sure are proving this true.
You should read closer. You supported the oppressive government measures when it suited you. And now you think you can resist those measures by doing none of the actual work of organizing a resistance. If you want to make change, start recruiting your army.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:41 pm to Zarkinletch416
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I would add when a nation loses its moral compass and there is senseless random violence on the streets you know your country is in deep trouble. Arrogant, evil, angry people will always find guns to kill. IMO, this nation crossed the threshold of evil on January 22, 1973 - Roe v Wade. I recall being sickened by the decision. Our country has slid quickly downhill from there.
remember when all you racist wouldnt let blacks in places.. that wasnt long ago. Or women couldnt have own bank account. or spitting on vets after nam. but today its crazy huh.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:44 pm to crazy4lsu
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I’m skeptical of this line of logic,
You're essentially claiming that the dynamics/escalation of a disagreement are the same when only one side is armed vs both sides being armed. You're free to believe that; I don't.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:47 pm to LSU1SLU
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you will sit there like the sheep you have been your whole life
I'll be here. The ball is in your court. See you then
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:47 pm to Flats
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You're essentially claiming that the dynamics/escalation of a disagreement are the same when only one side is armed vs both sides being armed. You're free to believe that; I don't.
you gotta get out from under your rock lmao. why havent these people stopped school shootings or mass shootings? naive little boy you sound
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:48 pm to crazy4lsu
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You should read closer. You supported the oppressive government measures when it suited you.
You read closer bro. I've supported no such thing
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:50 pm to FredBear
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'll be here. The ball is in your court. See you then
I think I am clear from fat asses like you ever starting any type of rebellion. what would you do without being able to order from uber .. also you say you supported no such thing when regards to govt.. if I may.. how old are you.. bc we are in this situation not bc some gen z kid, but sheeple such as yourself
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:01 pm to Flats
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You're essentially claiming that the dynamics/escalation of a disagreement are the same when only one side is armed vs both sides being armed.
But in this case, small arms are not the same thing as modern military weaponry. I could see an argument that gun ownership rates did have an effect on crime rates, if for example there was a heavier concentration of firearms in cities or something, but there isn't an immediate connection that I can see.
What groups that size with small arms do have in spades is the ability to organize, but in the US, because of the size of the US security apparatus, it is incredibly difficult to even do that.
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