re: It should be elderly abuse and neglect at this point to force Joe to keep going

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Oh there’s definitely a difference. The mans aged. The comments about his frailty and dementia are way blown out of proportion though in my opinion.

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I don’t even think he can be effective in towing the party line he is so out of sorts. Hard to keep up with the moving goalposts if you aren’t the one moving them, that’s a young mans game.