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re: Infowars is gone from FB and Youtube - and now more are coming
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:16 pm to ZZTIGERS
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:16 pm to ZZTIGERS
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I despise politics, and if forced would describe my political leanings as simple as “leave me alone”. I believe in personal freedom, free markets, and all that entails, as long as it doesn’t infringe on others. However, one thing that troubles me is the ability of private companies, purveyor’s of information...Google, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc.. to so easily silence, blackball, or severely cripple information & ideas to be disseminated. It’s frightening the amount of power & control they have.
The thing that seems to be missing from this thread is exactly what it is that Infowars represents. This isn't someone like Ben Shapiro or even Sean Hannity being banned. This is a site which actively encourages violence, civil war, promotes conspiracies, and just recently threatened to kill Robert Mueller. Those things are just "politics"....it's plain INCITEMENT>
Why in the hell would these companies be considered "stifling speech" when the fact is that they want no part of the inevitable violence that occurs as a result of Infowar's disinformation. Hell, it's already nearly happened once when that dipshit Jones' follower stormed into the pizza place because he believed in the whole Pizzagate conspiracy (nearly 100% made up by Alex Jones). Parents of dead Sandy Hook kids, to this day, receive death threats from Jones' followers who think the whole thing was a false flag to outlaw guns and believe these parents are just actors.
And y'all try to make this fricking political?!? This ain't about politics, folks.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:17 pm to SUB
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Come on...The baker isn't one of a few bake shops where you can get a cake. Being banned from two of the biggest platforms to share information is like being banned from 95% of all bake shops. It's not a fair comparison.
Anybody is free to open their own bake shop.
Anybody is free to start their own web-accessible video repository.
This sounds like a business opportunity for some entrepreneur.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:18 pm to t00f
When you repeatedly violate terms and conditions by posting fake and false stories intended to mislead the public this is what you get.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:19 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Facebook and Youtube are slitting their own throats
If they start banning things willy nilly, probably so, but I'm pretty sure Info Wars won't be the undoing of either platform.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:19 pm to tokenBoiler
So did Jones get banned for triggering snowflakes or did he actually violate their rules like all the liberals do?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:19 pm to MrLarson
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Thankfully your stupid arse was able to use "too" in the proper form.
Other than that, you're an idiot.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:20 pm to TJGator1215
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When you repeatedly violate terms and conditions by posting fake and false stories intended to mislead the public this is what you get.
CNN and huffpo got banned?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:20 pm to 50_Tiger
Wrong. FB and YouTube own the platforms and can do what they wish. Another case of conservatives crying about How companies run their businesses
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:22 pm to TJGator1215
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Another case of conservatives crying about How companies run their businesses
Interesting.
Thoughts on the cake debate?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:23 pm to SDVTiger
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So did Jones get banned for triggering snowflakes or did he actually violate their rules like all the liberals do?
He got banned because YT doesn't want to be sued after a Jones viewer kills 7 people because they believed his bullshite.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:23 pm to SDVTiger
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So did Jones get banned for triggering snowflakes or did he actually violate their rules like all the liberals do?
terms of service are generally written pretty broadly so that companies have latitude.
Youtube has a documented process, and rules. Certainly more robust than what facebook offers, although Youtube has a heavy hand in terms of banning channels, namely due to porn.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:25 pm to brian_wilson
I just can't wait for Rogan to have Jones on his podcast again after this
Jones is going to go OFF
Jones is going to go OFF
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:26 pm to BeeFense5
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When you repeatedly violate terms and conditions by posting fake and false stories intended to mislead the public this is what you get.
CNN and huffpo got banned?
I'm confused.
I thought we were all raising hell because they're "stifling free speech," but replies like this make it seem like we're fine with it if they do it to CNN or Huffpo.
Let me be clear, I know many of the lefties here are hypocritical and are only happy because this is one sided, but I'd like to think we can be consistent with our reasoning.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:28 pm to BeeFense5
The baker discriminated based on the fact that the buyers were gay. Which is against the law. Alex Jones being an alt right loon has nothing to do with him getting banned. Him violating their T&C repeatedly is what got him banned. Two different cases
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:28 pm to slackster
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 3:46 am
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:29 pm to slackster
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I thought we were all raising hell because they're "stifling free speech," but replies like this make it seem like we're fine with it if they do it to CNN or Huffpo.
I am strictly responding to the poster that said that. I never said they needed to be banned too, I am pointing out their hypocrisy.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:29 pm to JuiceTerry
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208,000: 2013 grant by National Institutes of Health to University of Rochester to use Twitter to study "disease spread, mental health in a hard-to-reach population, and presence and extent of 'natural helping' in promoting wellness and reducing norms supporting violence in low-income urban neighborhoods"
• $125,000 + $100,000: Grants by NIH to University of Washington to study Twitter and how to use it to identify "deviant behavior" -- or tracking when someone Tweets violent or death threats (grants were in 2012-13)
• $11,000: State Department expense for outside analysis of U.S. embassy Twitter and Facebook accounts (2012)
• $42,000: DOT for a contractor to "design, develop, implement, evaluate and enhance" the Federal Railroad Administration's social media accounts pages (2012)
• $260,000: Federal Emergency Management Agency to an outside company to "analyze news clips in which FEMA was mentioned, including times on social media sites like Twitter" (2012)
Source: NIH, FedBizOpps websites
Ya might want to rethink that congressional oversight thing, too.
I'm not for the government dictating business. But, when you start taking big brother money. Get prepared to have big brother up your arse.
This is what they just did.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:30 pm to TJGator1215
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“That’s a demon I will take down, or I’ll die trying. So that’s it. It’s going to happen, we’re going to walk out in the square, politically, at high noon, and he’s going to find out whether he makes a move man, make the move first, and then it’s going to happen,” Jones said, miming a pistol with his hand. “It’s not a joke. It’s not a game. It’s the real world. Politically. You’re going to get it, or I’m going to die trying, bitch. Get ready. We’re going to bang heads. We’re going to bang heads.”
Mfer is level of 1000 crazy
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:30 pm to t00f
Alex Jones and friends are loony and borderline conspiracy theorists, but to say that their productions are hate speech is an outright falsity.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:32 pm to Klark Kent
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Alex Jones and friends are loony and borderline conspiracy theorists
borderline?
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