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re: Indiana cop fired after body slamming teenage girl
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:07 am to Colonel Flagg
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:07 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:Holy frick. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!
Yeah I don’t think I would have dismissed the cop. I think the girl should have just followed directions. The force did not come across as excessive regarding someone not working with an officer.
Why would ANY FORCE AT ALL be the right answer rather than just telling the girl why she's been pulled over?
Do you seriously think that basically ANY time an officer doesn't 100% get his way, he should resort to force?
If so, I don't want to hear jack shite about the job being dangerous EVER again because if you resort to violence on that short of a fuse, you CLEARLY don't actually believe you have a dangerous job.
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:13 am to Wishing Well
quote:
Or, are you too stupid to recognize that there are different variations of failing to cooperate?
Oh there's different variations of failing to cooperate now... Gotcha...
quote:
she wanted to know why she was pulled over but I didn't feel like telling her yet" is to beat her arse?
Beat her arse? Though he was extremely aggressive taking her out the car, he didn't beat her arse.. I think you're being a little dramatic.
I'm not giving the cop any excuses, and he could've took it a little easier on her, I'm sure he lost his patience , which is not a good thing for a cop. However, all she had to do was cooperate and the whole thing could've been avoided.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:17 am to Hangover Haven
quote:LOL. And you think there aren't?
Oh there's different variations of failing to cooperate now... Gotcha...
quote:Her ENTIRE problem he had was she wanted to know why she was pulled over. And that's HIS story.
I'm not giving the cop any excuses, and he could've took it a little easier on her, I'm sure he lost his patience
Seriously. What in the actual frick is wrong with you people. Wouldn't you describe REFUSING TO TELL HER as uncooperative?
Oh. Tha'ts right. Whatever a cop wants is all good. And if he doesn't get it, violence is authrized!!!!!
You people defend irrationally. No normal human thinks its reasonable to refuse to tell someone why you pulled them over and to hold so fast to it that you're willing to get violent over it.
You stupid fricks ALWAYS put the onus on the person who DID NOT CREATE THE SITUATION to be more professional than the agent of the state who DID!
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:18 am to Hangover Haven
quote:Your average waitress has better deescalation skills than this a-hole did.
I'm not giving the cop any excuses, and he could've took it a little easier on her, I'm sure he lost his patience ,
And your average waitress deals with FAR WORSE THAN, "why exactly did you pull me over"
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:20 am to Wishing Well
quote:
Do you seriously think that basically ANY time an officer doesn't 100% get his way, he should resort to force?
That’s exactly what bootlickers/copcucks want
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:21 am to Wishing Well
You taking this way to personal and it shows...
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:22 am to Hangover Haven
quote:
I'm sure he lost his patience ,
In less than two minutes?
Dude was on his second job in less than a year. And they let him go. Maybe he will be hired in your town next. Have fun.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:23 am to Damone
Hey Damon, Is Wishing Well your alter?
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:24 am to Damone
quote:It's utterly amazing.
That’s exactly what bootlickers/copcucks want
These people seriously belief force is authorized in 100% of situations where a person doesn't do exactly what the cops asks.
These SAME people tell you the job is hard and dangerous. Um. People who think their job is dangerous don't do things to ADD to the danger. People who think their job is hard, look for ways to eliminate conflict.
Like I said. Your typical Applebee's waitress has better deescalation skills than these bootlickers expect of cops.
No wonder see cops have complete mental breakdowns when asked for BASIC fricking inforamtion from a citizen.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:25 am to Wishing Well
He pulled her out and put her on the ground to cuff her. He did not body slam her. He did not beat her. It looked like minimal actions to cuff her.
I would think the bigger issue and maybe a reason to potentially dismiss the officer is the fact he put himself in a situation where he could have been shot. Leading to death or sever injury for himself. He probably should have been more careful when dealing with an engagement.
So she was speeding, refusing to provide ID, and work with the officer. She wouldn’t fully open her window to an obvious police officer in a public space in daylight.
I guess I am kind of confused. Do I think police officers should be able to just do what they want? Obviously no. Yet people are literally arguing about this because some young girl wouldn’t just follow simple directions for a common type situation. You can’t let the inmates run the asylum. You have to have common protocol that you will abide by the standards of society.
Working with an officer on a typical traffic stop is not a lot to ask. I have been pulled over before, I hand them my ID, and I move on with fricking life. If I want to argue a ticket there is a way to do it. If we set a standard where people don’t abide by the simplest of requests and rules then we will have chaos.
If he would have done something truly excessive outside of just pulling her out the car, cuffing, and arresting her then I would have a different stance.
I would think the bigger issue and maybe a reason to potentially dismiss the officer is the fact he put himself in a situation where he could have been shot. Leading to death or sever injury for himself. He probably should have been more careful when dealing with an engagement.
So she was speeding, refusing to provide ID, and work with the officer. She wouldn’t fully open her window to an obvious police officer in a public space in daylight.
I guess I am kind of confused. Do I think police officers should be able to just do what they want? Obviously no. Yet people are literally arguing about this because some young girl wouldn’t just follow simple directions for a common type situation. You can’t let the inmates run the asylum. You have to have common protocol that you will abide by the standards of society.
Working with an officer on a typical traffic stop is not a lot to ask. I have been pulled over before, I hand them my ID, and I move on with fricking life. If I want to argue a ticket there is a way to do it. If we set a standard where people don’t abide by the simplest of requests and rules then we will have chaos.
If he would have done something truly excessive outside of just pulling her out the car, cuffing, and arresting her then I would have a different stance.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 11:29 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:26 am to Hangover Haven
quote:I'd prefer to live in America......not China. And the fact that so many Americans who CORRECTLY recognize that the state cannot be trusted seem to COMPLETLEY FORGET this fact when the state agent has a blue uniform on is mind boggling.
You taking this way to personal and it shows...
Also. EVERYONE should take it personally when agents of the state believe they have this level of physical authority over us.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:26 am to Hangover Haven
quote:
In less than two minutes?
That's why I said it's not a good thing for a cop to lose his patience...
I'm not making excuses for the cop, he handled it the wrong way.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:26 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:
She wouldn’t fully open her window to an obvious police officer
It is not required by law. Just assholes with power complexes.
So she had less than 2 minutes to determine if his uniform was authentic?
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:26 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:And he did this RATHER than just tell her why he pulled her over.
He pulled her out and put her on the ground to cuff her. He did not body slam her. He did not beat her. It looked like minimal actions to cuff her.
THOSE were the two choices he was confronted with. THOSE TWO CHOICES.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:28 am to Hangover Haven
quote:He handled it criminally. He SHOULD be arrested.
I'm not making excuses for the cop, he handled it the wrong way.
There's not a single other job in existence where if the employee asks someone to do something and that person asks why.............that the employee is suddenly authorized violence. EVERY SINGLE ONE of the rest of us would be in jail for what he did.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:30 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:LOL.
She wouldn’t fully open her window to an obvious police officer in a public space in daylight.
I missed this the first time. Good lord man. She's not REQUIRED to fully open it.
You stupid fricks sincerely believe that every word that passes a cop's lips becomes a lawful order. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:30 am to goatmilker
For all of the experts on this board, what is the appropriate action for an officer if the driver refuses to identify herself and refuses to provide a driver's license and refuses to exit the car? Not saying that this girl did that, just a hypothetical.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:31 am to goatmilker
quote:And a fully open window OFTEN leads to the next bullshite. "Hmmm, I think I smell something........I'm gonna need to search your car".
It is not required by law. Just assholes with power complexes.
So she had less than 2 minutes to determine if his uniform was authentic?
Despite the fact that it has been repeatedly proven that cop sniffers have a super low hit rate.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:32 am to nealnan8
quote:
nealnan8
For all of the experts on this board, what is the appropriate action for an officer if the driver refuses to identify herself and refuses to provide a driver's license
Are you being intentionally dishonest? Why do you skip right over the fact that she is asking for WHY she was pulled over first?
All he had to do was tell her, and then blammo, he gets ID. If he tells her and she STILL won't give ID, then get back to me.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 11:34 am to Wishing Well
quote:She is required to comply with "reasonable requests."
I missed this the first time. Good lord man. She's not REQUIRED to fully open it.
Do you contend that it was unreasonable for the officer to ask that the window be lowered?
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