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re: How can Trump beat the stacked deck against him in November?

Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:24 pm to
Who cares what the polls say. We all know how accurate they were back in 2016. Trump had no chance according to the polls in 16 and look how he did.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22905 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:27 pm to
We the People have his back.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:27 pm to
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Trump had no chance according to the polls in 16 and look how he did.
Trump didn’t have an absolutely terrible economy, Great Depression level UE, and $2 trillion more in debt all tied to his name when he ran in 2016 either.

He has a record now, and it is abysmal.
Posted by Phantom17
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
225 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:31 pm to
Still going to win.
Posted by Tony Tiger89
EVERYWHERE
Member since Feb 2008
2861 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:32 pm to
Someone grew a Mangina, during the Covid19 lock down !
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59651 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:33 pm to
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He has a record now, and it is abysmal.


It’s “abysmal” because of a virus from China. Not because of what Trump did. We had one of the strongest economies in our history before the China virus hit us.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2960 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:34 pm to
I think whether the deck is stacked against him or not is highly subjective. It basically revolves around COVID at this point. He was rocketing to reelection 60 days ago. If you supported him before, then COVID isn't his doing and he did the best he could under the circumstances while democrats did everything they could to exacerbate the situation for political gain. If you didn't support him before, then COVID is his fault and none of this would have happened under a democrat president.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Not because of what Trump did.
False.

He backed the shutdowns, which, as time passes is becoming more and more obvious that that was the wrong position.

He slow rolled reopening after folding on reopening sooner.

He signed off on $2 trillion in new debt and created a new welfare class that will pay more to keep people at home, prolonging the UE levels.

There was a time when this board would have lambasted anyone who pushed to spend that kind of money and create that sort of debt level.

I still remember the vitriol in regards to Obama’s spending, which pales in comparison. That is chump change now.

The reason this pisses me off more than anything is that he is doing his absolute best to hand the election to Joe Biden and the Democrats.

He was going to walk away with it before he burned it all down.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:38 pm to
Quit lying about everything and try just a little to actually bring all Americans together in a non political way. Easy to do but he just can’t do these.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59651 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:43 pm to
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False.

He backed the shutdowns.

He slow rolled reopening after folding on reopening sooner.

He signed off on $2 trillion in new debt and created a new welfare class that will pay more to keep people at home, prolonging the UE levels.

There was a time when this board would have lambasted anyone who pushed to spend that kind of money and create that sort of debt level.


The virus has caused the situation we are in. If trump kept the economy open and millions died it may have caused a downfall anyway. If he closed the economy (like he did) and caused millions to lose their jobs just as bad as a situation. He had two bad options and I believe he picked the better one.

Yes he has added to the debt but there isn’t much he can do about that either.

The media will do their best to put the full blame on trump, he may take some but trump isn’t responsible for the virus nor this bad economy.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:44 pm to
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If trump kept the economy open and millions died
Millions were not going to die.

Like I said, he was played like a fiddle.
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Yes he has added to the debt but there isn’t much he can do about that either.

The media will do their best to put the full blame on trump, he may take some but trump isn’t responsible for the virus nor this bad economy.
So, Obama was right with his big stimulus package?

And the media doesn’t have to try very hard.

Every decision that was made at the federal level, every recommendation, every passed bill, it all has Trump’s signature on it.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59651 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:51 pm to
I don’t feel like going back and forth on this. The simple point I’m trying to make is that the virus has caused the situation we are in not what Donald J Trump has done. In terms of the stimulus it is a different situation than what Bush and Obama did. We gave to much to pointless programs but I do agree with the PPP and other similar situations. Maybe trump screwed up some things but I blame the virus not trump.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21617 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:51 pm to
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Trump didn’t have an absolutely terrible economy, Great Depression level UE, and $2 trillion more in debt all tied to his name when he ran in 2016 either.

He has a record now, and it is abysmal.


Until the pandemic, the economy, UE, consumer confidence and support for the President were all sailing along, some at record clips.

It took an international health crisis to potentially derail it. Even with all of that, he has more than 6 months to right the ship.

Meanwhile, the media and the Democrats have unzipped their proverbial flies and completely exposed their agendas.

If we're anything close to the crisis level that we are now, I agree that he'll be in trouble. That said, if we can come through the worst of this and visible economic progress is apparent without a significant spike in cases and fatalities, his chances become exceptional again.
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