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re: How bad does it get after the election.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:02 pm to samson'sseed
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:02 pm to samson'sseed
At least we make valid points, Samson.
You and the other left-wing troll have contributed nothing to the discussion. That's par for the course with you and Bengal.
You and the other left-wing troll have contributed nothing to the discussion. That's par for the course with you and Bengal.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:23 pm to darkhorse
About as bad as it is right now.
Republicans will either take the senate or not. Either way, Obama will refuse to work with them on anything, and in return his agenda is just as dead as it has been since 2010.
A gridlocked federal government has some benefits that I think some of you don't see.
Republicans will either take the senate or not. Either way, Obama will refuse to work with them on anything, and in return his agenda is just as dead as it has been since 2010.
A gridlocked federal government has some benefits that I think some of you don't see.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:28 pm to darkhorse
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How bad will it get if the Republicans fail to gain the senate?
....REALLY,REALLY BAD!!! White people will wreak havoc on this country. They will do something that will make the riots in Missouri look like child's play....they will do something that will grind this country to a halt and shut down the government.
They will stop going to work....and the blood sucking leaches will die on the vine!!!
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:52 pm to member12
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Republicans will either take the senate or not. Either way, Obama will refuse to work with them on anything, and in return his agenda is just as dead as it has been since 2010.
Nuclear option has been used. His agenda moves forward through other means.
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Before November 2013, Senate rules required a three-fifths vote of the "duly chosen and sworn" members of the Senate[3] – (usually 60 votes) to end debate on a bill, nomination or other proposal; they also require a two-thirds vote ("present and voting"[3] – 67 or fewer votes) for a change to the Senate rules. Those rules effectively allowed a minority of the Senate to block a bill or nomination through the technique of the filibuster. This had resulted in a de facto requirement that a nomination have the support of 60 Senators to pass, rather than a majority of 51.
Holder has done much to alter and harm this country. With the Senate in control of the Dems, he can not be removed.
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the attorney general is also subject to impeachment by the House of Representatives and trial in the Senate for "treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors."
Even more so, if Holder resigns, then we could get one worse. Dems control the senate. That goes for other nominations too.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:38 pm to darkhorse
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There are 9 toss ups:
Begich(D) leads by 4
Pryor (D) down by only 2 after being down by 7 in june
Udall (D).. tied despite his LOW approval rating.
Landrieu (D) tied
Hagan (D) Tied
Then 3 open seats:
IA: Tied
Mi: The Dem is up by 4
Ga: The Rep is up by 9... they have a short debate today at 12:15.
Darkhorse, you might want to add a state to that list of close races.
Six weeks ago, the major NH Poll (WMUR/UNH) had incumbent Dem Sen. Jeanne Shaheen leading likely Rep. nominee Scott Brown by 12 points, 52-40.
Just 6 weeks ago.
Tonight, they just released their latest poll here in NH, conducted Aug. 7 - 17th.
New poll result: Shaheen 46 Brown 44 !
10 points cut off the 12 point lead in just 6 weeks, using the same pollster.
State is back in play.
Probably less about Shaheen than Obama.
Obama won NH in 2012 by 52-47.
In the poll released today, Obama had an approval rating of 38%, and a disapproval rating of 55%.
There have been 5 Shaheen ads to every one Brown ad up here so far, as Brown's plan has to been to turn on the pressure after he clears the Sept. 9th primary.
One thing to watch for is that the poll ended before the news of the brutal murder of the NH reporter, which is huge news up here. Hard to tell if that will come into play or not.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:11 am to darkhorse
I think the republicans will win back the senate…it honestly doesn't matter tho. The presidents foreign policy is so weak and he will just veto everything congress presents him…even bigger lame duck period.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:59 am to Jma313
I think a crazy scenario that could actually happen is the GOP winning enough of the toss-up states....only to lose the seat in Kansas.
Pat Roberts is NOT popular here. He's only polling at 32 percent. The Democrat in the race is at 27 percent and an independent (and wealthy) third-party candidate is over the 20-point mark. Roberts has taken a lot of heat for not living in the state and he almost lost a primary to a guy who posted X-Rays of his patients on Facebook.
If enough anti-Roberts sentiment aligns with Greg Orman (the independent), I could see Orman pulling the upset.
Roberts is still the favorite, but don't overlook Kansas on election night.
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EDIT: Another reason to watch Kansas is the Governor's race. Brownback is unpopular even among a third of the registered Republicans. If the anti-Brownback sentiment is strong enough come November, I could see Roberts being a casualty of that. As unpopular as Obama is in Kansas, there are a number of interesting local issues that are making the election season in Kansas more exciting than normal.
Pat Roberts is NOT popular here. He's only polling at 32 percent. The Democrat in the race is at 27 percent and an independent (and wealthy) third-party candidate is over the 20-point mark. Roberts has taken a lot of heat for not living in the state and he almost lost a primary to a guy who posted X-Rays of his patients on Facebook.
If enough anti-Roberts sentiment aligns with Greg Orman (the independent), I could see Orman pulling the upset.
Roberts is still the favorite, but don't overlook Kansas on election night.
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EDIT: Another reason to watch Kansas is the Governor's race. Brownback is unpopular even among a third of the registered Republicans. If the anti-Brownback sentiment is strong enough come November, I could see Roberts being a casualty of that. As unpopular as Obama is in Kansas, there are a number of interesting local issues that are making the election season in Kansas more exciting than normal.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 1:02 am
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:10 am to KCTigerFan212
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KCTigerFan212
Does KC(TigerFan212) stand for Karla Circle? Are you related to KCT?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:11 am to LSUGrrrl
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Does KC(TigerFan212) stand for Karla Circle? Are you related to KCT?
Nope. I'm a Mizzou fan who lives in the Kansas City metro area. The 212 is my birthday.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:12 am to KCTigerFan212
Ok. You pass. Carry on
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:53 am to KCTigerFan212
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Pat Roberts is NOT popular here. He's only polling at 32 percent. The Democrat in the race is at 27 percent and an independent (and wealthy) third-party candidate is over the 20-point mark. Roberts has taken a lot of heat for not living in the state and he almost lost a primary to a guy who posted X-Rays of his patients on Facebook.
If enough anti-Roberts sentiment aligns with Greg Orman (the independent), I could see Orman pulling the upset.
Orman's biggest problem is this:
"Orman said if he’s elected, it’s possible neither side will have a clear majority, giving the Senate’s few independents a leading role.
The other 2 Independents in the Senate caucus with, and vote almost 100% with, the Democrats.
“I’m going to caucus with whichever party is willing to address our country’s problems,” he said.
Voters won't buy that when they get behind the curtain in the voting booth. Both parties say they are addressing the country's problems, so that's no answer. It's dancing around to try to please everyone.
“Ultimately, if one party is clearly in the majority, I will likely caucus with that party because that will be in the best interests of the state of Kansas.”
So in other words, forget what I just said above, I'm going to caucus with the majority, i.e., the path of least resistance.
Since he said "CLEARLY in the majority", the only party likely to be able to do that is the Dems, the party under whose designation he ran for the Senate in 2008.
It's Roberts against two Democrats. Period.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:04 am to darkhorse
Poll numbers in late August mean jack shite.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:07 am to LSUGrrrl
Hold grudges much, LSUGRRL?
Honestly, I have no idea what I did to you that justifies your negative obsession with me.
Honestly, I have no idea what I did to you that justifies your negative obsession with me.
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