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re: Great Ajit Pai interview with Fox & Friends, takes on Jimmy Kimmel

Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:34 pm to
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How many of those cases did the corporation win?



All of them. Which is why ISPs were reclassified as common carriers.

The FCC adopted regulations to address these types of issues in 2010 ("Open Internet" ruling). Those regulations were challenged in 2011 by Verizon, which claimed the move overstepped the commission's legal authority.

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in Verizon's favor because the FCC had previously placed broadband Internet service in a separate regulatory category from phone service and thus the FCC lacked the legal justification to enforce the "Open Internet" rules.

During 2014-2015 FCC proposed to reclassify ISPs as common carriers which would give them the jurisdiction to enforce net neutrality principles. In 2015 it was officially able to regulate ISPs under Title II.

In December 2017 the reclassification of ISPs as common carriers was repealed meaning the FCC now has no jurisdiction under Title II to enforce net neutrality principles.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:37 pm to
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how are people still ignorant of this at this point in the net neutrality debate? 


Because the vast majority of people now arguing against NN miraculously generated an opinion once a trump appointee wanted to repeal it. They didn't even know what it was before 2017 and still factually don't.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Can somebody tell me what good repealing net neutrality fricking does? How does this help me?


NN and the CIWA that Obama signed just before leaving office would allow a lone govt beaurocrat to shut off any and all parts of internet content on a whim.

The media content providers endorsing and applying censorship, like twitter, google, and reddit, were totally in favor of NN. These content providers are 100% aligned with one political party.

Be thankful that crap is gone.

NN ==> Complete control of information, on behalf of one political party.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:47 pm to
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Because the vast majority of people now arguing against NN miraculously generated an opinion once a trump appointee wanted to repeal it. They didn't even know what it was before 2017 and still factually don't.



This is the correct answer.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:48 pm to
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The media content providers endorsing and applying censorship, like twitter, google, and reddit, were totally in favor of NN. These content providers are 100% aligned with one political party.

Be thankful that crap is gone.

NN ==> Complete control of information, on behalf of one political party.


Member since Nov 2017
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This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:48 pm to
NN is probably the only issue of our time that the youth on both right and left agree on.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:53 pm to
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NN is probably the only issue of our time that the youth on both right and left agree on.




Not even just the youth, but the majority of Republicans AND Democrats at large.

Though I suspect, just like with morality in representatives, the Fox News brigade will over time do a good job of getting that 68 and up audience to see things through the lens the handful of corporate shills on here are ahead of the curb on. Which is pretty sad on a number of levels.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Not even just the youth, but the majority of Republicans AND Democrats at large.


Pretty much everyone outside of the anti-government types agree on NN principles. Almost no one gives a shite about Title II.
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