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re: From My MSU Booster Friend: MS Covid numbers. 2x cases, 75% less deaths, Low vax rates

Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53590 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:00 pm to
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Everything is shite and can’t be trusted based off of that alone… No fricking way only 13% have had covid


Now as far as the vaccine, its simple. It reduces effects, however it doesn’t prevent the spread from all indications.

So, if youre old or have comorbidities, you should get the vaccine. If you’re healthy, there’s really no point. The mantra of protecting other people is bullshite, you’re only protecting yourself at this point and even then, young and healthy are running the unknown risk of long term effects.

Make your own decision based off of yourself.



You last sentence is the best and I have but 1 problem from the rest.

We don't know the effectiveness of the vaccine and if it reduces anything.

The Delta V is not as deadly. So there is absolutley no way to know.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53590 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:02 pm to
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You can't do the math to justify what you are saying.


Don't run. Tell me the math on the effectiveness. Don't skirt Chinaman.

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The only number that counts is the 2% of the positive cases were vaccinated.



Wrong. If that is the case then you have a massive issue to explain in Israel, Iceland and many other nations as it's the exact opposite.

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The death and hospitalization rates have too many variables--for example, by far the majority of vaccinated are over the age of 65.



So you can't show the effectiveness of it.

Figures.





And once more. 2% of all cases produced (so far... data will roll in over the next 4 weeks) 13% of the deaths...

Waiting on your MATH.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 2:11 pm
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2330 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:12 pm to
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That the vaccine can not be responsible for the decline in the rates because the math does not support it.

More cases.. less deaths.


The vaccine clearly results in less deaths. The number of cases is up because the Delta variant is more contagious. The vaccine was to keep death rates and hospitalizations lower, it has clearly succeeded in that for those that are vaccinated. Thank you for pointing it out and making a case for vaccinations. As usual, you have the dumbest posts on this board. You really are a special kind of ignorant. How's that Arizona audit going? Any day now right?
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53590 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:14 pm to
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The vaccine clearly results in less deaths.


Show the math and how you came to that conclusion.


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he number of cases is up because the Delta variant is more contagious.


Less deadly too. So I wait for your math.


Waiting...
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9878 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:49 pm to
Per a friend at Ochsner in NOLA 100% of the CV patients are very obese and all that comes with that. So vax doesn't really matter if already at death's door
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32516 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:50 pm to
Nonsense - you don't have any friends
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51623 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 3:03 pm to
We are running at only 20 deaths per day.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:16 pm to
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he only number that counts is the 2% of the positive cases were vaccinated.
which is a complete fabrication. They changed the way they track cases for the vaccinated.

Government is literally stacking the deck and manipulating numbers to create a pandemic that does NOT exist
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