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re: From Babylon to America: The Prophecy Movie
Posted on 7/18/20 at 1:46 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 7/18/20 at 1:46 pm to boosiebadazz
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Tell me where Donald Trump fits in
Trump's living rent-free inside your head (across the street from me).
Posted on 7/18/20 at 2:12 pm to prplngldtigr
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prplngldtigr
Good doc. I still have about 45 minutes to go.
He also did an "From America to Babylon" doc, but I don't think it's available on YouTube.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:40 pm to walley tux
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you Pentecostals are a special kind of stupid.
just fyi revelations barely made it into the catholic bible and didn't make it into the orthodox bible.
and if it weren't for the Council of Nicaea in 325 you wouldn't have a bible.......you're welcome!
Not a Pentecostal, but just to play Luther’s advocate, was anything he said about the inquisition, the Dark Ages, how the Vatican became it’s own city state or how Constantine kicked off the Holy Roman Empire not true?
I mean, he sourced the Papal writs and he’s right about going away from the sabbath.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 6:29 pm to Zephyrius
Grew up catholic and really the church doesn’t focus on the end times at all in my opinion. Went to catholic school from preschool to graduation and learned more about Catholicism by going to a non dom church that focused on the Bible. This movie is very interesting in the way it ties history with the Bible. Fact- No doubt he is an Adventist. Another fact- Pope Francis is a communist
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:20 pm to prplngldtigr
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This guy is incredibly sharp.
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He dissects bible scripture to decode some language and timelines and explain certain parts of history.
Mutually exclusive statements
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:30 pm to FlexDawg
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Most Catholics are good people and don’t even realize the origins of Catholicism which involve paganism and idolatry due to Constantine mixing Christianity with Roman paganism.
Fruit of the poisoned tree
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:51 pm to friendlysnek
Sisteen chapel has pagan art in the hallway leading to the sisteen chapel
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:00 pm to louisianalegend
The Vatican museum is packed with Egyptian polytheistic statues.
Easter = Esther, fertility goddess/Spring fertility ritual (eggs, bunnies, chicks)
Christmas = Winter solstice/Germanic Yule/Saturnalia (evergreen trees inside to remind that life will return in the spring).
None of this is that surprising, we just mostly never talked about it.
Easter = Esther, fertility goddess/Spring fertility ritual (eggs, bunnies, chicks)
Christmas = Winter solstice/Germanic Yule/Saturnalia (evergreen trees inside to remind that life will return in the spring).
None of this is that surprising, we just mostly never talked about it.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:25 pm to Runner1
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The biggest thing I can take from this is that the bible is amazingly accurate and those that discount it as fables should give it a chance. In a world that has no absolute truth the only truth that stands is God's Word.
One of the best paragraphs I've read in awhile.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:38 pm to Wolfhound45
The Antichrist will deceive even some Christians. How can this be if the prevailing views about the Antichrist are true? The fact that he is able to deceive so many reveals one inescapable fact. The prevailing views about the Antichrist held at the time of his coming are false.
One of the reasons why the majority of Jews did not accept Jesus as the Messiah was because he did not fit their preconceived beliefs about the coming Messiah.
One of the reasons why the majority of Jews did not accept Jesus as the Messiah was because he did not fit their preconceived beliefs about the coming Messiah.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:58 pm to nola000
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nola000
Buddhism for the win
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:07 pm to Runner1
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The biggest thing I can take from this is that the bible is amazingly accurate and those that discount it as fables should give it a chance.
There are multiple events described in the Bible that we know WITH HISTORICAL AND SCIENTIFIC CERTAINTY not only didn’t happen, but in fact could not possibly have happened. The two most glaring examples are the global flood and the exodus from Egypt. It’s not simply that there is no evidence that they did occur (there isn’t), or even that there is mountains of evidence that they didn’t (there is) but rather they were scientifically impossible and could not have happened.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:13 pm to westide
The Elect will not be deceived. Jesus stated if it were possible the elect would be deceived. In other words it’s not possible.
However he will deceive many
However he will deceive many
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:21 pm to Tesla
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Not a Pentecostal, but just to play Luther’s advocate,
well when you create a religion from scratch and create the bible in 325 AD you can do it your way!
until then kindly keep your mouth shut!
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:34 pm to Roger Klarvin
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There are multiple events described in the Bible that we know WITH HISTORICAL AND SCIENTIFIC CERTAINTY not only didn’t happen, but in fact could not possibly have happened. The two most glaring examples are the global flood and the exodus from Egypt. It’s not simply that there is no evidence that they did occur (there isn’t), or even that there is mountains of evidence that they didn’t (there is) but rather they were scientifically impossible and could not have happened.
Plenty of evidence. You just choose to not look at it. Study the actual scriptures and correlate to archeological evidence. Go to Egypt and you will be surprised at what you will find.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 9:49 pm to louisianalegend
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Plenty of evidence.
Yeah I know. Chariots found at the bottom of the Red Sea. Egyptian records discussing the Exodus. Fossils at the tops of mountains. And on and on and on. All either bullshite or grotesque misunderstandings of science by those looking to legitimize the fables.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:08 pm to prplngldtigr
Here are my thoughts:
He is spot on for about the first hour or so.
Here is what I think he is wrong on after that:
1. The 1260 days are literal days and not years. So two 42 month periods of antichrist rule for a total of 7 years. The guy who made the video claims the Papacy rule from 538-1798 was the first 1260 days(years) which would make 1798 the midway point when the beast receives the fatal wound. That would mean we (The church) are currently living in the second half of the tribulation which is the great tribulation and therefore would be impossible. There was no peace deal with Israel that was broken in 1798, there’s no rebuilt 3rd temple in Jerusalem that any type of antichrist has sat in, and there’s no mark that we have been asked to take in order to buy or sell. If the mark isn’t implemented at the beginning of the tribulation then it definitely would be as soon as the great tribulation begins midway through. If the mark were a day we chose to worship on then who has resisted and cannot therefore buy or sell and has therefore been beheaded? Also the Bible is clear that the tribulation is meant as a time of “Jacobs trouble” (Jacobs name was changed to Israel). The Church(Christians) will be raptured out before the tribulation and everyone left including Jews will then have to believe AND endure(martyred possibly) until the end in order to be saved. Jacobs trouble is a clue in to how God will deal with the church and then Israel. Jacob dealt with two women(Leah and then Rachel). The changing of the body is the catching away of the Church. Since this guy thinks we have long passed the midway point he obviously doesn’t believe in a pre trib or mid trib rapture which both make more sense than a post trib rapture. Christ is to return at Armageddon WITH the church(Christians) after the wedding. If we are still here then who is he returning with??
2. The lamb with two horns is not the United States but the false prophet which is an individual person. You have to understand that everything satan does is a counterfeit version of what God does. Therefore the false prophet would be the counterfeit Holy Spirit, the antichrist is counterfeit Christ, and satan is counterfeit Father god completing the unholy trinity. The fatal wound 3 1/2 years in is when the antichrist is assassinated and resurrected as satan incarnate(Again here he is imitating God). The second beast(false prophet)uses miraculous signs and wonders, including fire from heaven. This is obviously an individual trying to establish credibility to him and the antichrist.
3. Concerning the Sabbath or Sunday being the mark of the beast:
That is a part of the Law that was given to the Jews, and for the Jews. Just as the feast days were given to the Jews. Romans 2:14 Paul speaks specifically to that. Also Roman 14:5 Paul talks about esteeming certain days. Jesus rose on the first day of the week and we read several places where the disciples met on the first day of the week. Acts 20:7 the disciples gathered and Paul preached to them on the first day of the week. John was in the spirit on the Lords day ( first day of the week ) Rev 1:10. Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to them that believeth Romans 10:4. Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law (the whole chapter 3 for context ) The law was given to the Jews, but also to anyone who compares their life to the Law it reveals to them that they are sinners because the Law is Holy. So the Law has a purpose even for today, and for everyone. It proves to you that you are a sinner. Romans 3:20 "for by the law is the knowledge of sin" Jesus said," The Law and the prophets were until John since that time the Kingdom of God has been preached and every man have presseth into it! Galations 4:10-11 Paul is scolding them for turning back to the old law and observing days and months after he has preached to them the New Covenant. New Covenant is what we are under. A lawyer was trying to make Jesus stumble with the law. He asked master which is the greatest commandment? Jesus answered thou shalt love the lord thy God with all your heart soul and strength. This is the greatest and also love your'e neighbor as yourself. UPON THESE TWO HANG ALL THE LAW AND PROPHETS! Upon the law of love is all the law fullfilled. So the church isn’t under the law, as to keeping it for salvation or keeping days and seasons!
Sunday is celebrated by Christians because Jesus was resurrected on a Sunday. No other reason. The Jews don’t celebrate on Sunday because they don’t believe in Jesus as the messiah.
He is spot on for about the first hour or so.
Here is what I think he is wrong on after that:
1. The 1260 days are literal days and not years. So two 42 month periods of antichrist rule for a total of 7 years. The guy who made the video claims the Papacy rule from 538-1798 was the first 1260 days(years) which would make 1798 the midway point when the beast receives the fatal wound. That would mean we (The church) are currently living in the second half of the tribulation which is the great tribulation and therefore would be impossible. There was no peace deal with Israel that was broken in 1798, there’s no rebuilt 3rd temple in Jerusalem that any type of antichrist has sat in, and there’s no mark that we have been asked to take in order to buy or sell. If the mark isn’t implemented at the beginning of the tribulation then it definitely would be as soon as the great tribulation begins midway through. If the mark were a day we chose to worship on then who has resisted and cannot therefore buy or sell and has therefore been beheaded? Also the Bible is clear that the tribulation is meant as a time of “Jacobs trouble” (Jacobs name was changed to Israel). The Church(Christians) will be raptured out before the tribulation and everyone left including Jews will then have to believe AND endure(martyred possibly) until the end in order to be saved. Jacobs trouble is a clue in to how God will deal with the church and then Israel. Jacob dealt with two women(Leah and then Rachel). The changing of the body is the catching away of the Church. Since this guy thinks we have long passed the midway point he obviously doesn’t believe in a pre trib or mid trib rapture which both make more sense than a post trib rapture. Christ is to return at Armageddon WITH the church(Christians) after the wedding. If we are still here then who is he returning with??
2. The lamb with two horns is not the United States but the false prophet which is an individual person. You have to understand that everything satan does is a counterfeit version of what God does. Therefore the false prophet would be the counterfeit Holy Spirit, the antichrist is counterfeit Christ, and satan is counterfeit Father god completing the unholy trinity. The fatal wound 3 1/2 years in is when the antichrist is assassinated and resurrected as satan incarnate(Again here he is imitating God). The second beast(false prophet)uses miraculous signs and wonders, including fire from heaven. This is obviously an individual trying to establish credibility to him and the antichrist.
3. Concerning the Sabbath or Sunday being the mark of the beast:
That is a part of the Law that was given to the Jews, and for the Jews. Just as the feast days were given to the Jews. Romans 2:14 Paul speaks specifically to that. Also Roman 14:5 Paul talks about esteeming certain days. Jesus rose on the first day of the week and we read several places where the disciples met on the first day of the week. Acts 20:7 the disciples gathered and Paul preached to them on the first day of the week. John was in the spirit on the Lords day ( first day of the week ) Rev 1:10. Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to them that believeth Romans 10:4. Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law (the whole chapter 3 for context ) The law was given to the Jews, but also to anyone who compares their life to the Law it reveals to them that they are sinners because the Law is Holy. So the Law has a purpose even for today, and for everyone. It proves to you that you are a sinner. Romans 3:20 "for by the law is the knowledge of sin" Jesus said," The Law and the prophets were until John since that time the Kingdom of God has been preached and every man have presseth into it! Galations 4:10-11 Paul is scolding them for turning back to the old law and observing days and months after he has preached to them the New Covenant. New Covenant is what we are under. A lawyer was trying to make Jesus stumble with the law. He asked master which is the greatest commandment? Jesus answered thou shalt love the lord thy God with all your heart soul and strength. This is the greatest and also love your'e neighbor as yourself. UPON THESE TWO HANG ALL THE LAW AND PROPHETS! Upon the law of love is all the law fullfilled. So the church isn’t under the law, as to keeping it for salvation or keeping days and seasons!
Sunday is celebrated by Christians because Jesus was resurrected on a Sunday. No other reason. The Jews don’t celebrate on Sunday because they don’t believe in Jesus as the messiah.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 7/19/20 at 10:46 am to Rex Feral
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It’s a cool movie but it’s just trying to convert you to be a 7th day Adventist.
It seems like this scripture would undermine Seven Day Adventist doctrine.
Romans 14: 5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
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