Fix The Failing Schools, DumBell Edwards!

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Do the incompetent teachers deserve the raise? 

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Define "incompetence". Is it based on the flawed "school performance score?"

Lets each make chicken salad. I will use the usual ingrediants and you get to use chicken shite. The end result...you failed (unless you like eating shite). Basically, you have to have something to work with. Parenting, disciplinary rules not being subverted by "special education" guidelines, and a better design from a curriculum standpoint are ALL much bigger factors imho.

I am a teacher, conservative white male, DID NOT vote for JBE (and will not be voting for him), and am indifferent on the proposed raise.

The reason I am indifferent...because I cannot reasonably determine who deserves one. The system in place (designed with the influence of GW Bush, Obama, Jindal, and now JBE) is moronic.

As for me personally, I have had one raise in the past decade. Such is life, I chose this profession. That being said, I feel my students go on to be productive in my community and beyond.
This is just my .02.

If you think schools fail because of the teachers, you are a fool and clueless.

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In big cities this is absolutely the case. New Orleans and Baton Rouge public schools are an utter government failure.

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Hence the chicken salad analogy. Einstein could teach math to some students and he would be deemed a failure based on the matrix used to determine the "school performance score." As such, there is not a reliable way to determine success or incompetence imho. I can give you my thoughts on how to improve the student's ability to be more successful in the long term, but it wouldn't be politically expedient.

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jimmy the leg

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You're going to get lots of downvotes from conservatives and liberals, most of whom let pop culture raise their kids, gave in to every whim, didn't teach their kids how to read before starting school, didn't teach manners and are blowing every penny instead of saving for their kids' college.

And will be the first ones to show up when their snowflakes didn't get an A and want you to teach their kids how to balance their bank accounts.

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New Orleans and Baton Rouge public schools are an utter government failure.

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Just out of curiosity what are some changes to policy or curriculum that you think would make NOLA and BR schools good? What exactly does Central, Zachary, and St. Tammany do that NOLA and BR don't?

Can you give some examples of good non-select school districts elsewhere in the country that have similar demographics?

Jimmy,

I live in a 3rd world country where the murder rate is almost 7 times that of the US (and guns are illegal, but most murders are committed with guns).
There are two high schools a few miles from my house and they could not be more different. One has all the violence of a school in the 9th ward of New Orleans.

The other, I have visited many times, the kids say "good morning", I watched one kid thump another on the head and point to his untucked shirt. In a country with a million population, they always have a couple of students in the top 100 when final exit exams occur.

The race makeup of the two schools is similar, all black and east indian. Economic situation is similar.

I was standing in the hall with the principal, in front of their huge trophy case....filled with scholastic trophies. And I commented on how she must be proud of her kids performance, and behavior. She laughed and said, its not me.....its the parents. If I had a discipline issue, I would not have a bunch of liberals talking about rights, I would have a 100 parents demanding I be fired for not addressing it.