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re: Fed Prosecutors allegedly informed DJT that he is Criminal Target, likely to be indicted

Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:12 pm to
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he next 17 months will be something to behold.



The only thing will make it tolerable is LSU winning national titles in baseball and football.


a big ask.

how about playing wake for baseball natty and beating bama in the football reg.
and throw in a win over the big ten winner in the semis.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:14 pm to
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So did Jesus.


Jesus said he is one with the divine.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19448 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:20 pm to
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anything to get him off the ticket. they're scared shitless


This is the Daniel Oretega method of staying in power. Anyone who runs against the communists gets arrested. Arresting opponents is what communists do to their opposition.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:24 pm to
Unrolled version of full thread for those who don't Twit

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Brian Cates - Political Columnist & Pundit
@drawandstrike
This guy said the same thing before. The bad guys will get arrested. Blowing smoke up people's asses for how many years now?

The nerve to continue the it's happening when Durham was a dud is astounding. Did he also push devolution? Another crock of crap...

Seriously...why give out hopium jugs? For the paypal clicks?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:31 pm to
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So all of this over documents a President has seen and took like other presidents have done?


No, it’s his refusal to give them back when subpoenaed. It’s having your attorney sign something saying there are no more documents when you know there are. That’s the issue. They weren’t his to have, and the US government demanded them back by subpoena, and he refused to comply. He doubled down by lying about it. That’s the issue.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30585 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:38 pm to
Mike Davis just told Bannon they will indict Trump, convict him and then Trump will take it to SCOTUS.

He said Garland will ignore the Presidential Records Act.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30585 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 4:40 pm to
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No, it’s his refusal to give them back when subpoenaed. It’s having your attorney sign something saying there are no more documents when you know there are. That’s the issue. They weren’t his to have, and the US government demanded them back by subpoena, and he refused to comply. He doubled down by lying about it. That’s the issue.


None of that matters. His powers as president to declassify are plenary.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:46 pm to
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None of that matters. His powers as president to declassify are plenary.


Then he has to prove he declassified them, not everything is going to be under Crossfire. For the other things, where is the proof be declassified them?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30585 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:48 pm to
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Then he has to prove he declassified them, not everything is going to be under Crossfire. For the other things, where is the proof be declassified them?



He does not have to prove anything. He was the president. Presidential powers to declassify are plenary.

What don't you understand about that?
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:51 pm to
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No, it’s his refusal to give them back when subpoenaed. It’s having your attorney sign something saying there are no more documents when you know there are. That’s the issue. They weren’t his to have, and the US government demanded them back by subpoena, and he refused to comply. He doubled down by lying about it. That’s the issue.



So Biden did that 5x over, for shite he got when he wasn't president, where's his issue?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:10 pm to
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He does not have to prove anything. He was the president. Presidential powers to declassify are plenary. What don't you understand about that?


What do you think plenary means? He still has to do it. You do realize he doesn’t have the right to declassify anymore, right? If he didn’t declassify before, then it wasn’t done. He established he knew there was a process when he did the crossfire declassification. It’s going to be hard to claim on these other documents he told no one about it and just did it. Do you not see that’s a problem?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:11 pm to
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So Biden did that 5x over, for shite he got when he wasn't president, where's his issue?


Can you find where Biden ignored a subpoena for the documents or had his attorney claim falsely they had given everything back? There should be lots of examples if he did it five times more as you say.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30287 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:21 pm to
I hate all this foreplay..can we just race ahead to the frick scene..

Where all the complicit Dems & RINOs are before UCMJ..

Some of us were Ritalin kids.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:25 pm to
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Then he has to prove he declassified them,

I asked this before....where is the legal SOP process for the President when he leaves offices regarding documents? The same exact one that all Presidents before him followed.

Ie...what legal statute says he has to show proof?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:31 pm to
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I asked this before....where is the legal SOP process for the President when he leaves offices regarding documents? The same exact one that all Presidents before him followed. Ie...what legal statute says he has to show proof?


No other president has ignored a subpoena and had his attorney lie about it. That’s the difference. The only thing he can do is say they were declassified. He will have to show his work. No other president has needed to because no other one has put himself in the same position.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:31 pm to
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Can you find where Biden ignored a subpoena for the documents or had his attorney claim falsely they had given everything back? There should be lots of examples if he did it five times more as you say.

Biden was VP when he took the documents, not president so he should have never walked out with the docs in the first place to be subpoena'd. He created a crime the moment he walked off the premises with it. From what know Trumped followed the same rules as every president did prior to him...unless there is something we don't know.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:34 pm to
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No other president has ignored a subpoena and had his attorney lie about it. That’s the difference. The only thing he can do is say they were declassified. He will have to show his work. No other president has needed to because no other one has put himself in the same position.

And you failed to provide what matters. Let's start with...what law was that subpoena based on that requires him to do what you are saying?

The "Trump didn't do something another Prez has done" isn't an excuse because on the flip side...."no other Prez has been gone after like Trump has"
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:35 pm to
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Biden was VP when he took the documents, not president so he should have never walked out with the docs in the first place to be subpoena'd. He created a crime the moment he walked off the premises with it. From what know Trumped followed the same rules as every president did prior to him...unless there is something we don't know.


Biden returned them when found and willingly brought them to the Archives attention. Trump refused to turn them over and denied having them. No other president has done that. It’s a lie to say Trump has done what every other president has. It’s not the fact he took them. It’s that he refused to give them back. That’s the real issue.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23305 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:38 pm to
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indeed! Whataboutism! tell us all about it. my mom taught me at age 11 that whataboutism doesn't cut it. I was like, "but they did it." whataboutism does not hold up in court any better than in homes around the nation.


Whataboutism, huh?

Trump was president you dumb shite. Biden had these documents whenever he was Vice President, in a house his corrupt arse son was renting in the garage. There’s really no comparison you dumb piece of shite.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:38 pm to
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And you failed to provide what matters. Let's start with...what law was that subpoena based on that requires him to do what you are saying? The "Trump didn't do something another Prez has done" isn't an excuse because on the flip side...."no other Prez has been gone after like Trump has"


What right does he have to have classified documents after he is no longer president and the government requests them back?
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