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re: Dozens reported dead in alleged Syrian gas attack
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:04 pm to Lakeboy7
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:04 pm to Lakeboy7
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All the the Syrian gassing of civilians has been carried out by the Assad govt.
That’s demonstrably false.
We have no evidence Assad has ever employed Chemical Weapons at any point during the war.
We do have repeated examples of rebel forces using everything from Chlorine, to kitchen sink Sarin.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 12:05 pm
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:04 pm to HempHead
I half expect to see gays thrown off roofs again soon. Perhaps flaming puppies launched from catapults next?
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:04 pm to Lima Whiskey
Jesus man I had you in the sane column?
Oh well
Oh well
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:05 pm to Strannix
I’m sorry you’re wedded to an idea that isn’t true?
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:08 pm to Lima Whiskey
Ok man, you are out of the sane column and now in the Q column.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:11 pm to Lakeboy7
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Nerve agents are like fingerprints, once a valid sample is obtained we have the capability to tell where it came from, the lab, all the way down to the batch and lot. So if nerve agents from another country were used we would know. We also have the capability to know exactly what delivery system was used, air or artillery doesn’t matter. All the nerve agents used in Syria are of Syrian manufacture. All the the Syrian gassing of civilians has been carried out by the Assad govt.
What a load of crap. The onus is on you to prove what you stated as fact is true. Give us documented proof that all chemical attacks have been carried out by Assad. The attack last April was in Al Queda supported rebel territory and noone could get to the area to study it. Also prove that no chemical weapons could have been acquired by rebels as they were in possession of vast areas of Syria including military facilities. Also show us documentation that states the lab that each chemical weapon attack is from and proof that supports it. If you can’t do this then your statements are worthless propaganda.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:15 pm to Lakeboy7
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Jesus man I had you in the sane column?
Oh well
Most of the reports come from Jihadist groups, like the White Helmets.
The White Helmets are nominally some sort of civilian relief NGO, but their membership consists of known jihadists with a strong incentive to color the truth. What they actually do is produce is propaganda for western consumption.
We’ve seen B real of their videos, which reveals just how highly produced their videos are. Imagine actors standing around, waiting for someone to say “action.” Then there are the mechanical issue, such as footage of alleged attacks, where the first responders appear to be unaffected by the alleged agents. Despite the fact they’re using no protective gear whatsoever.
And that’s the problem with these reports. They always come from Jihadists, or their media allies, and they always come when the Jihadists are losing on the battlefield.
Another source of information for these attacks is the Syrian Observatory on Human Rights.
It’s a one man shop run by a Syrian emigre who lives just outside of London. It’s probably an Mi6 information operation.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:15 pm to feverish
You’re right, the rebels did it, or the CIA, more likely Soros and Obama.
It’s Assad
It’s Assad
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:16 pm to feverish
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What a load of crap. The onus is on you to prove what you stated as fact is true. Give us documented proof that all chemical attacks have been carried out by Assad.
Yeah, I aint buying. Neocons gonna do neocon things though. Some people are just itching for another war.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:16 pm to Lakeboy7
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It’s Assad
If Assad ordered it, we would have signals intelligence.
And we would release it for the world to see.
Question though, what is the motive for the Syrians. Why would the use chemical weapons, and why now?
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:52 pm to Lakeboy7
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You’re right, the rebels did it, or the CIA, more likely Soros and Obama. It’s Assad
Nice evidence.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:18 pm to RollTide1987
ITT: Tin-foil hat people.
The chlorine canister was air-dropped.
It was Assad, once again. And Russia knew about it possibly happening. The Russians are masters of propaganda, especially when fooling the likes of the poliboarders.
Anyone who has followed this conflict since 2011 knows that Assad's SAA does things nonsensically. They've had this war under control for a very long time and have still done thing that absolutely make no sense like sending an armored column unsupported into the desert to be obliterated by ISIS.
Get over it, Assad isn't a friend to the US and doesn't care about innocent lives. Their Baathist regime has been imprisoning, torturing, and murdering people for decades.
In the context to their operations in Ghouta, why not use CW when you have your enemy surrounded, the US president has said they want to pull out of Syria, and you have Russia's full backing? It's an easy way to break the will of your enemy without risking more lives of your army. Russia is there to fire up their propaganda machine and make it seem like the US wants to invade Syria under the guise of a false-flag attack, and Trump can't turn his back on what he said previously about wanting to get out.
It's not that complicated guys.
ETA: And check out these links before you downvote:
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LINK
LINK
From attack in Eastern Ghouta:
From HRW:
The chlorine canister was air-dropped.
It was Assad, once again. And Russia knew about it possibly happening. The Russians are masters of propaganda, especially when fooling the likes of the poliboarders.
Anyone who has followed this conflict since 2011 knows that Assad's SAA does things nonsensically. They've had this war under control for a very long time and have still done thing that absolutely make no sense like sending an armored column unsupported into the desert to be obliterated by ISIS.
Get over it, Assad isn't a friend to the US and doesn't care about innocent lives. Their Baathist regime has been imprisoning, torturing, and murdering people for decades.
In the context to their operations in Ghouta, why not use CW when you have your enemy surrounded, the US president has said they want to pull out of Syria, and you have Russia's full backing? It's an easy way to break the will of your enemy without risking more lives of your army. Russia is there to fire up their propaganda machine and make it seem like the US wants to invade Syria under the guise of a false-flag attack, and Trump can't turn his back on what he said previously about wanting to get out.
It's not that complicated guys.
ETA: And check out these links before you downvote:
LINK
LINK
LINK
From attack in Eastern Ghouta:
From HRW:
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:25 pm to rmnldr
Delusional.
They got you good.
They got you good.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:27 pm to feverish
quote:
feverish
ETA:
Douma is being bombed like this:
Just like Aleppo before, do you really think the SAA wouldn't also use CW when they're indiscriminately bombing from helicopters?
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:30 pm to rmnldr
One Twitter pawn posts unfakeable photos, I am convinced. The guy you link to has no formal training in anything he claims to be an expert on. Look it up.
Why don't you post pictures of Raqqa Syria and Mosul Iraq where we bombed them to dust? Does that mean we would use chemical weapons?
US bombing in Raqqa:
Mosul:
Why don't you post pictures of Raqqa Syria and Mosul Iraq where we bombed them to dust? Does that mean we would use chemical weapons?
US bombing in Raqqa:
Mosul:
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:33 pm to starsandstripes
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Interesting this comes right after Trump says he wants to depart.
Gosh, I wonder if the CIA is behind this, in order to keep us in the region
Boom
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:35 pm to feverish
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One Twitter pawn posts unfakeable photos, I am convinced. The guy you link to has no formal training in anything he claims to be an expert on. Look it up.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:45 pm to rmnldr
Your argument is in no way logical.
You show photos of combat damage in a city, and you argue that this supports the allegation that the SAA used chemical weapons.
How?
Could you not also produce a similar photo of damage we inflicted in Raca? Would that also mean that we are likely to use chemical weapons?
You show photos of combat damage in a city, and you argue that this supports the allegation that the SAA used chemical weapons.
How?
Could you not also produce a similar photo of damage we inflicted in Raca? Would that also mean that we are likely to use chemical weapons?
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:49 pm to rmnldr
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do you really think the SAA wouldn't also use CW
It's in their worst interest to use chemical weapons. There's literally no reason at all for them to do so. The negatives faaar outweigh the positives.
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:52 pm to rmnldr
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It's not that complicated guys.
If Assad is dropping obvious canisters containing chemical weapons he's the dumbest mother fricker in the world.
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