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re: Can we all agree that Hillary and Obama betrayed our country with the uranium deal?

Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:41 pm to
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I agree that russian ads on facebook are a strawman. So knock it right on down by telling us that it's okay for russia to buy facebook ads.


Invents straw man. Then wants others to discuss it. No thanks.

I'm perfectly happy letting a company do what they want. Perhaps you aren't. Sounds like you want more government. Fascist.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:57 pm to
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The truth is, at the time the administration approved the transfer, it knew that Rosatom was engaged in racketeering, felony extortion, fraud, and money-laundering. shite that libs are melting over with Manafort as I type. The DOJ kept it under raps for years before pleading it out for a fricking slap on the wrist

That's not true. Rosatom was not under investigation. A Russian living in Maryland, Vadim Mikerin, who was contracting with U.S. shippers to transport Russian uranium to the U.S. (under an agreement made between the U.S. and Russia in 1993), was rigging the bid process (which was supposed to be by public bid) to overcharge the U.S. transportation companies, and to pocket the overcharges for himself and his co-conspirators.

Mikerin and his co-conspirators were convicted as a result of the investigation.





Posted by culsutiger
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:02 am to
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This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:29 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:08 am to
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I didn't invent it. Hillary and her sycophants did.


When one says strawman, it refers to this thread. But, if you are so dumb you can't figure that out then there is little help for you.

strawman doesn't mean something is false, dope.

Feel free to link your assertion.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46235 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:22 am to
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That's not true. Rosatom was not under investigation. A Russian living in Maryland, Vadim Mikerin, who was contracting with U.S. shippers to transport Russian uranium to the U.S. (under an agreement made between the U.S. and Russia in 1993), was rigging the bid process (which was supposed to be by public bid) to overcharge the U.S. transportation companies, and to pocket the overcharges for himself and his co-conspirators.

Mikerin and his co-conspirators were convicted as a result of the investigation.


Mikerins operation was the American subsidiary of Rosatom. You are trying to split hairs here.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23455 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 6:33 am to
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And if you think it wasn't a betrayal, explain your position




Obama and Hillary could publicly take a dump on the original Declaration of Independence and some folks here would find a way to defend it.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:36 am to
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Mikerins operation was the American subsidiary of Rosatom. You are trying to split hairs here.

That is true. But the point is that Mikerin was operating on his own as a rogue employee who actually defrauded his employer and pocketed the proceeds. Rosatom had nothing to do with the illegal activity, other than it was a victim.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:38 am to
Name calling
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:46 pm to
So... nothing burger
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46235 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:48 pm to
You are trying way too hard here. The CFIUS members knew there were problems with Rosatom in the US. They knew that there was a severe COI with the Clintons and Guistra, and they sure as hell knew that the Clintons had a history of mining quid pro quo. Not to mention the fact that incarnation of evil "muh Russians" were at the center of the arrangement and were never going to honor their end of the bargain.

The deal was, pardon the pun, radioactive. They approved it anyway because they are all crooks.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:48 pm to
The thread has been refuted above.
So start another tomorrow and pretend its a real issue.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 12:58 pm to
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The deal was, pardon the pun, radioactive. They approved it anyway because they are all crooks.


The deal was perfectly normal and in no way illegal.

But it involved the Clintons, and you're a moron, so you can't get off it.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 1:00 pm to
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But it involved the Clintons
How did it involve the Clintons again?
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