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re: Brit Hume on abortion
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:46 am to MrTide33
Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:46 am to MrTide33
Killing an infant and a fetus is different. I actually don't agree with late term or whatever its called abortions. But some people know that they won't or can't be good parents and decide to go with abortion and I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 12:51 am to themisfit
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But some people know that they won't or can't be good parents and decide to go with abortion and I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Killing an infant and a fetus is different
This is the crux of abortion discussion. It all comes down to this. What makes a fetus lack the rights of an infant? Because if a fetus is a person, then people who know they won't be good parents should either not have sex, or use birth control and risk the consequence. At the worst, put the child up for adoption. But I'm of the belief that it is wrong to take the life of an innocent person, and that a fetus is just as much a person as you and me.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:00 am to MrTide33
Accidents do happen though condoms break. And the adoption argument come on there are millions of kids in the system a system that is a nightmare and a meat market. Would you rather snuff out a life or make a life to just be put in a hellish nightmare.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:06 am to themisfit
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Accidents do happen though condoms break
Which is why the people using them should be prepared to have a child.
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And the adoption argument come on there are millions of kids in the system a system that is a nightmare and a meat market. Would you rather snuff out a life or make a life to just be put in a hellish nightmare.
I want us to fix the adoption system. I know it's a nightmare, but yes, I'm against taking away the opportunity for a person to make what they want to out of his or her life.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:09 am to MrTide33
So every sexual act anyone is a part of they should sit down and make sure there money is right and they have the right temperment and patience and all of that just incase that act results in a child well just take all the fun outta sex why don't you
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:15 am to themisfit
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So every sexual act anyone is a part of they should sit down and make sure there money is right and they have the right temperment and patience and all of that just incase that act results in a child well just take all the fun outta sex why don't you
This is a problem with sex. It is pleasurable, and you naturally want to partake in it. But behind the raunchy fun of it, there are real consequences. If you participate in an act that could create a human, you need to be ready for that consequence. Everyone has their right to their opinion on morality, but the world sells sex as if its all about the fun. Sex actually is more than just a fun thing to do
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:19 am to MrTide33
Only if abortion is outlawed. Just had to. I agree to a degree however in just my opinion people should have a choice personally I don't believe the fetus feels pain. And there is no way it has the mental capacity to know what is happening and because of that it should be left in the hands of the parents.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:24 am to themisfit
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I don't believe the fetus feels pain. And there is no way it has the mental capacity to know what is happening
Experts are unsure of the ability to feel pain. Regardless, the same could be said of a shot to the head of a sleeping infant. And actually, any adult as well. In a case of immediate unexpected death, all would fit these two categories.
By the way, to your earlier post about kids coming into nightmarish situations, this is part of why I believe they should get an opportunity to live through it.
Some celebs with hard childhoods
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:43 am to MrTide33
I'm calling it a night. I want to leave you with a few things:
1. We have focused on the first of the three natural rights, life, but the third right may be just as key in answering your question about children entering bad situations: the pursuit of happiness. These unborn should get their chance to pursue it.
2. Thank you for discussing with me and having an open mind. Keep it open and don't ever think you've got everything right: you don't and neither do I. Keep searching for truth.
3. Roll Tide.
1. We have focused on the first of the three natural rights, life, but the third right may be just as key in answering your question about children entering bad situations: the pursuit of happiness. These unborn should get their chance to pursue it.
2. Thank you for discussing with me and having an open mind. Keep it open and don't ever think you've got everything right: you don't and neither do I. Keep searching for truth.
3. Roll Tide.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:43 am to MrTide33
Eh I'm pro choice your pro life we will never agree but you did make me think and I appreciate it. But for every foster kid that grows up to be rich and famous 5 others have committed suicide or ended up in prison.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:44 am to themisfit
Roll tide goodnight
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:20 am to themisfit
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we will never agree
This is the problem with society. deciding that we have our ideology set and we won't change it no matter what.
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But for every foster kid that grows up to be rich and famous 5 others have committed suicide or ended up in prison.
That's not the point. They deserve the chance to either make something of themselves or not
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:24 am to themisfit
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And the adoption argument come on there are millions of kids in the system a system that is a nightmare and a meat market.
I can tell you from personal experience that you are confusing adoption and foster homes. The adoption of infants in the United States is a highly screened process. Because the process is so costly and sought after, people with good incomes wait years to be able to adopt. Most of the kids that are adopted at birth hit the lottery.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:26 am to TK421
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TK421
Thanks for this
I was thinking there's a difference when the mother decides to adopt out at birth.Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:17 pm to themisfit
I guess if you don't consider a living organism life
Posted on 1/24/14 at 8:26 pm to TN Bhoy
Women have a "right to privacy" but, the NSA can violate it any time they want.
I love the hypocrisy of our Supreme Court.
I love the hypocrisy of our Supreme Court.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:50 pm to LSUwag
Pro choice basically say women get to choose if it's murder or not. If a women that is 2 months pregnant wants to keep the baby and a stranger stabs her and the baby dies that stranger will be charged with murder. If the mom decides she doesn't want it and aborts it then it's not murder. The choice women should have is to be educated and choose not to have unprotected sex.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:26 pm to GeauxWarrior12
I was right there with you until this.
There are people out there (on this very board) who would out law birth control.
Some Pharamcists refuse to sell it to women on religious grounds.
I won't even dredge up Rape victims (of which there is a horrify number of).
Not all women who chose abortion chose to get pregnant.
But the point is they have a choice whether to have a baby or abort their fetus.
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The choice women should have is to be educated and choose not to have unprotected sex.
There are people out there (on this very board) who would out law birth control.
Some Pharamcists refuse to sell it to women on religious grounds.
I won't even dredge up Rape victims (of which there is a horrify number of).
Not all women who chose abortion chose to get pregnant.
But the point is they have a choice whether to have a baby or abort their fetus.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:29 pm to asurob1
Name one person (other than TN Bhoy who we all agree is nutz) who advocates outlawing BC. Most people on here just don't want insurers being required to provide free BC and having our tax dollars used to pay for abortions.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:44 pm to kingbob
ctf for one.
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